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Re: Is everything falling apart?

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"Strong men" make fascism, not good times. It's pretty much the definition of fascism - a delusional paternalistic idiot infecting everyone around him with his own neuroses and narcissism, in the name of "patriotism" and "respect."

I can’t understand what you’re trying to convey. The terms fascist and nazi seem to have lost all meaning nowadays…at least to the far left.

When the far left calls Trumpists fascist they are generally referring to the far right's current objective of overruling elections and installing a theocratic theocracy under Trump where white males are in charge across the board.

Re: Is everything falling apart?

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this saying is often used to demean men that don't fit a very narrow definition of "strong"

It’s a comment about the cyclical nature of prosperity. It’s not an attack on the non masculine.

I'm saying that right-wing authoritarians often use it as an attack on people they deem as not traditionally masculine, despite the original intention. It's used frequently enough that some people might mistake association.

Search for this saying on twitter, for example. It's been co-opted as fascist propaganda.

Re: Is everything falling apart?

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We're in the last 50 years of industrial civilization. Anyone who spends enough time with systems thinking and looking at the big picture of industrial society inevitably comes to the same conclusion. I was a "doomer" back when everything seemed fine. Nothing since 2019 has surprised me at all. Things will continue to break down at a faster rate and more severely. However, one of my earliest realizations upon waking…

This coincides will my belief is the rise of self-degrading memes running rampant on every social platform I use. Every "funny" slogan, has a negative connotation, or self-degrading message attached to it. "When you only have $4.20 in your bank account", "How I look in the mirror vs tagged photo", etc.

We need to be very, very hesitant about identifying trends we see on social platforms, because most social platforms are highly optimized to show us the trends we want to see.

Re: Is everything falling apart?

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post #252

Everything is not falling apart, though certain institutions may be falling apart. In America, there's definitely been a breakdown of belief in its own institutions. Far more people are skeptical of things like journalism and Silicon Valley; it really wasn't that long ago that the former was constantly salivating over the latter, but now it's more of an openly vulture-carrion relationship because that caters to publi…

Oh yeah no doubt; I collate trends into reports for rich investors. Lately they have been focused on youth trends, and some numbers are wacky. 40% point drop in 16 year olds getting a license since the 80s as urbanization puts people closer to stuff and ride share appeared. Youth participation in sports, especially full contact sports, had been going down since before covid which just accelerated it, leading to forec…

Very interesting comment, but one thing I don't get is the sports one. Why would lower participation in youth sports lead to a contraction of commercial sports? Does low youth participation in making TV shows hurt the market for consuming them?

Re: Is everything falling apart?

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>We engineered away stability for JIT, covid came along and proved to many we live in a Banana Republic exporting memes of exceptionalism, while most people can’t grow a potato for themselves. This is hyperbolic. The US is not a banana republic. Why would you expect the average person to need to know how to grow a potato?

Replace potato with any old piece of handy info, like home or car maintenance. A lot of younger Americans (myself included) have little practical knowledge, so everything needing knowhow in this generation must be outsourced. Compare this to my grandfather's generation, he knew how to frame houses, plumb, electric work, auto work, gardening, etc, and he was not alone. If he needed something done you'd get four of you…

This sounds a little rose tinted to me. I personally think for simpler tasks, much more information is available these days compared to older times. There's many resources on how to grow a potato (and other things) on the Internet.

For other tasks, some things have simply become a lot more complicated to work on. Electronics were a lot simpler in older times, for instance; swapping out a surface mount quad flat package will require a lot more "finesse" than swapping out a 1960s capacitor. Cars too have gotten more electronics and software. Despite this, there are definitely still people that have the skills to repair modern electronics and cars. (I will say that these types are often hampered by manufacturers that seem hostile to the idea of users being able to practically repair devices, hence the "right to repair" movement being a thing these days.)

Re: Is everything falling apart?

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post #266

Yesterday I made the comment "everything is collapsing underneath" though there's context etc. I think the better way to say it. "Is everything falling apart for the USA?" Yes indeed. Most other countries have problems. Sure Sri Lanka has the same problems. Sure the middle east just went through the same problems and some states are still enduring civil war. Though from what I can tell it's mostly the USA in this 'fa…

(as the twitter picture is getting a bit of thought) The depiction of the right remaining where it is from 2008 to 2021 is misguided at best. The party of George Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney is the same as the GOP today is incorrect. https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-04-20/geo... https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/27/politics/mitt-romney-gop-ukra... https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/27/politics/john-mccain-…

>The depiction of the right remaining where it is from 2008 to 2021 is misguided at best.

As I mention here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31206510 it has been objectively measured. There have been quite a number of leftist political commentators who recently have been offended that they are labelled right-wing now. Bill Maher or Russel Brand for examples.

Carlos Maza before his disgrace wrote on the subject @vox and he basically argued that obama and truman were the same politically. That's rather insane, sure they did start a bunch of wars and bomb countless civilians. I on the otherhand don't recall Obama threatening to draft the people in a union on strike into the war. I also suspect truman and obama's stances on immigration are slightly different LOL.

Dont get me wrong. I can certainly see both parties moving left. LGBT rights are a key example. There's nothing wrong with moving left.

>The party of George Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney is the same as the GOP today is incorrect.

I would agree.

George W Bush for example actively voted against gay marriage. Even planned to make a constitutional amendment to protect marriage from homosexuals. He banned homosexuals from boy scout. I can just imagine how horrified Bush is about it being Scouts now. Even was of the opinion that it's not possible to commit a hate crime toward a gay.

Flipside, Trump went around the world promoting LGBT rights and brought the fight to the middle east and russia to decriminalize being LGBT. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-adm...

Do you feel this new republican party is going the right direction of LGBT rights? I think so. I applaud Trump here.

>I believe that this depiction only makes sense for Elon if a different right endpoint is used - where the right is closer to Ron Paul and the left is instead the caricature at the extreme that the comic portrays.

I think that's kind of the point. Objectively the far right hasn't changed much at all. In fact the common argument is that the far right has moved slightly left since that time. Which on 1 issue I clearly show the shift. Not the other way around like you suggest.

>It wouldn't surprise me if the Democratic Party has shifted to the more authoritarian end of the Y axis of the political compass - increased regulation in the wake of corruption and the increased power of corporations.

Bill Maher I believe made this point. That the left has gone so far left that everything to the right of them look right wing. You can identify this by seeing democrats like you say here.

>https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008

Political compass was questionable for some time, but it's interesting to see it here. They are offensively wrong for canadian politics.

If you see your entire political spectrum as right-wing authoritarian. That's a problem with the graph. If you're going to produce a poor graph like this you have to justify it. They dont.

>https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020

The failure largely speaking is that the left vs right false dichotomy. But political compass is also self-biasing from a far left position.

Hawkins in left libertarian should be bottom left corner. The graph is biased by that much.

In a way the political polarization is visible in those graphs. It's also interesting to see why. They do the analysis by finding answers to questions. "What is your stance on abortion, gun rights, etc." and then plot.

But if you self-biased based on your own political beliefs by only asking certain questions. Then you end up showing your bias and not the political plot of politicians.

>However, that completely ignores the shift of the the majority of the rest of the Republican Party to the top right corner.

Elon very clearly understands what is wrong. I would put money on a bet that he understand better than I do.

The censorship and failure in communication have produced echo chambers which artificially pushed the left-wing toward the far left. Afterall what happens if the left-wing only talks to the left wing? Of course their discourse without dissent will shift left. We haven't measured it, but right-wing echo chambers would do the same thing.

What do you think the consequences will be when the right-wing shifts far right? Elon wants to fix the problem before this happens.

Re: Is everything falling apart?

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post #535

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The elites that control everything dont really care about social security, medicare, medicaid. Automation can make all the things they would want. Why do they need you around again? Especially when having you around creates pollution that makes things worse for them....

Because if shit gets bad enough for the general population, they go after the elites in full force. This is why we have constant revolution throughout human history.

Whats scary to me is that before the elites needed other non elites to be bodyguards/administrators/army/muscle for them to help avoid that, and they at least had to trickle down to their henchmen to keep in power. What happens when they have automation for that?

Re: Is everything falling apart?

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I blame Steven Tyler for creating the hit song "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)". Before that it was all so clear.

It was actually John Money who formed the basis of modern so-called Gender Theory by his twisted experiments on twin boys who he abused so thoroughly that they ended up taking their own lives. Check out the book "As Nature Made Him: The Boy who was Raised as a Girl" by John Colapinto

Re: Is everything falling apart?

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Every generation thinks the world is ending but eventually one will be correct.

The psychological tension that is inherent to capitalism (indefinite exponential growth is required, unbounded exponential growth is impossible) requires that the system be under plausible existential threat at all times.

In what sense does capitalism require indefinite exponential growth? I recall, for example, that Japan did not collapse during their Lost Decade.

Re: Is everything falling apart?

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post #504

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> Journalism was a tawdry, un-respectable business since its conception, but experienced a brief period of valor around the mid-twentieth century And it wasn't just journalism. After WWII many veterans took advantage of the free education offered by the GI Bill. That gave us a lot of highly educated people (with no student loan debt to worry about!) who then went on to use that education to improve things. Couple thi…

I always wonder about people that post things so divorced from reality. We have five times as many college grads today as we did in 1960: https://www.statista.com/statistics/184260/educational-attai...

It isn’t obvious from your link… what % of current grads are “business majors” who don’t really know anything other than how to be greedy and justify it with fancy PowerPoint slide decks?

The number of grads may have gone way up, but I think the education itself had slid down the slippery slope to create too many administrators and bureaucrats.

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