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The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy Creek

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Re: The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy Creek

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I think everyone is getting this wrong. This is all posturing. The Florida legislature knows perfectly well that it can never unwind Reedy Creek. But if they can make a good show of trying , then that will earn points with their base, and when the courts shut them down they can blame "activist liberal judges" for their failure, despite the fact that it was a foregone conclusion. But the perception will be that they t…

There has to be some sort of cognitive bias towards believing that a majority of political decisions are "posturing" or facades. If I'm being honest I fall for this interpretation way more often than I'm comfortable with.

Re: The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy Creek

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It would be a shame if current legislators could restrict future legislators by adding infinite year bonds to all new laws with promises the law will never change as long as that bond exists. If this principal of preserving bond contracts prohibits legistivative action or could even have a chilling effect on it, perhaps the real issue is that government debt generally is a risk to our democracy. Perhaps congresses sh…

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Re: The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy Creek

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post #31
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And just to make sure this is clear: they aren't making donations to anyone in Florida, Republicans or Democrats alike. The Republican response to this was to punish Disney. We can't know what the Democratic response would have been since Democrats aren't in charge of anything in Florida. "Keep donating or we'll punish you" is an interesting stance.

”Keep donating or we'll punish you" is an interesting stance. It can’t be legal, surely?

We maybe get to find out if they keep fighting with each other and it lands up in the judicial branch.

Re: The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy Creek

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post #50
post #22

I think everyone is getting this wrong. This is all posturing. The Florida legislature knows perfectly well that it can never unwind Reedy Creek. But if they can make a good show of trying , then that will earn points with their base, and when the courts shut them down they can blame "activist liberal judges" for their failure, despite the fact that it was a foregone conclusion. But the perception will be that they t…

> All of the liberals celebrating Disney's imminent "victory" are completely missing this bigger picture. The optics of this…and things like the Musk/Twitter hand wringing serves a single purpose: It’s forcing the Democratic Party to start making 180 degree public shifts of some of their classic positions on things like large corporate sweetheart deals and limits on free speech/censorship. Right now, the progressive…

>It’s forcing the Democratic Party to start making 180 degree public shifts of some of their classic positions on things like [...] limits on free speech/censorship. [...] Its driving liberals out of the Democratic Party

I'm unclear on what you're trying to express here. "Free speech" is a liberal value, and the topic at hand is an anti-free-speech, pro-censorship bill by the opposing party. It seems one of these two things don't match.

Re: The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy Creek

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post #22

I think everyone is getting this wrong. This is all posturing. The Florida legislature knows perfectly well that it can never unwind Reedy Creek. But if they can make a good show of trying , then that will earn points with their base, and when the courts shut them down they can blame "activist liberal judges" for their failure, despite the fact that it was a foregone conclusion. But the perception will be that they t…

There has to be some sort of cognitive bias towards believing that a majority of political decisions are "posturing" or facades. If I'm being honest I fall for this interpretation way more often than I'm comfortable with.

There has to be some sort of cognitive bias that because someone says that one particular political decision is posturing that they therefore must be advancing the idea that "a majority" of political decisions are posturing.

Re: The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy Creek

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It would be a shame if current legislators could restrict future legislators by adding infinite year bonds to all new laws with promises the law will never change as long as that bond exists. If this principal of preserving bond contracts prohibits legistivative action or could even have a chilling effect on it, perhaps the real issue is that government debt generally is a risk to our democracy. Perhaps congresses sh…

I mean they could just keep it in existence forever by issuing new debt, apparently.

Everyone is excited about Disney 'beating' the Florida government but: is having some weird corporate carve-out of US territory that essentially must legally exist forever really something good?

Re: The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy Creek

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there no distinction between teaching children about "sex" and teaching children about families and relationships? Because a casual reading of the bill certainly appears to threaten the latter, where the "this is reasonable" proponents seem to be pushing for the former interpretation. Classic "disingenuous use of partisanship to talk past each other", but it's funny how the ostensibly "limited government" people a…

Why do children have to be taught about relationships in school? They have home and families, even extended ones, for that.

> Why do children have to be taught about relationships in school? They have home and families, even extended ones, for that.

Why do children have to be taught about $anything in school? They have home and families, even extended ones, for that.

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