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Snap launches its first drone

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Re: Snap launches its first drone

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Post by alephnan »

void-pointer wrote: post #252

People saying that this can’t compete with DJI are missing the point. This product knows its target market (hint, not the people who browse HN) and, based on my initial first impressions, I think it’s nailed it. Forgive me for a slightly contrived analogy, but if a DJI Mavic is a DSLR, and a DJI Mini is a portable point-and-shoot camera, then Pixy is a Polaroid. It’s certainly not got the highest picture quality, doe…

> Polaroid

This is fine if there is stabilization and sufficient lighting.

The best camera is the one you’ll use.

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Post by srmarm »

eptcyka wrote: post #330
dvt wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that mp3s sucked until the iPod, and camera phones sucked until the iPhone. The idea that product quality, ease of use, UX/UI, or polish doesn't matter is just wrong. This thing is absolutely going to bomb (reminds me of GoPro's Karma) and I'd bet money on it, but SNAP stock is already in dire straits, so their incompetence is probably priced in.

Camera phones sucked until iPhone 4 at least.

My Sony K750i from 5 years earlier was phenomenal. Only 2mp resolution but the lens was brilliant and I've still got a bunch of photos I printed from it that still stand up to scrutiny.

I think at that period the US was way behind the rest of the world on mobile tech. I remember people in a phone shop in New York being really impressed with it.

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Post by srmarm »

jolux wrote: post #386
emteycz wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was extremely popular brand in Europe for many years. At one time almost everybody had a good Nokia or Sony Ericsson. I saw Motorola Razr like one time in the wild.

Well, I speak from an American perspective and the Razr was everywhere, but according to Wikipedia their peak was around 10% market share. Nokia was much much more popular.

America was way behind at that point.

IIRC a combination of weird regional roaming agreements, odd incompatible networks and the sheer size of the country leading to lots of coverages blackspots meant that the US just didn't get widespread adoption of decent mobile tech.

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Post by scoot »

ceejayoz wrote: post #345
whatshisface wrote: post #341

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Drone photography predates selfie sticks.

No, it doesn’t. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/23/photograph-1...

It seems much more likely that the stick in this picture was used to press the shutter release button of a camera on a tripod than to suspend the camera itself.

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Post by emteycz »

srmarm wrote: post #393
jolux wrote: post #386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I speak from an American perspective and the Razr was everywhere, but according to Wikipedia their peak was around 10% market share. Nokia was much much more popular.

America was way behind at that point. IIRC a combination of weird regional roaming agreements, odd incompatible networks and the sheer size of the country leading to lots of coverages blackspots meant that the US just didn't get widespread adoption of decent mobile tech.

Yeah, that makes the iPhone hype much more sensible. I remember it as very much underwhelming, I had a phone like that 2 years before it came out, and it had apps.

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Post by crowbahr »

mupuff1234 wrote: post #243
ckardat123 wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's worth noting that their stock is still up 185% since March of 2020. In spite of the prior failures at hardware, the app is still incredibly popular among young people.

Also worth adding that they are only up %6 from the IPO price.

IPO price is just what the most enthusiastic investors hope it's worth.

It's worth more than that, sure, but the correction happened almost immediately after the IPO.

Which is why being so far up from its bottom 2 years ago is important.

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Post by Aperocky »

rexf wrote: post #318
void-pointer wrote: post #252

People saying that this can’t compete with DJI are missing the point. This product knows its target market (hint, not the people who browse HN) and, based on my initial first impressions, I think it’s nailed it. Forgive me for a slightly contrived analogy, but if a DJI Mavic is a DSLR, and a DJI Mini is a portable point-and-shoot camera, then Pixy is a Polaroid. It’s certainly not got the highest picture quality, doe…

Yeah, the use case is pretty clear. It allows non-technical people to easily & quickly take a selfie video. I'm disappointed in the video quality, but I'm looking forward to the extreme ease of use. Press 1 button and watch it go.

> It allows non-technical people to easily & quickly take a selfie video.

As a DJI mini 2 owner I have to say it doesn't really get easier than that.

But DJI mini 2 has 4K resolution, 30 minutes flight time, can fly miles and are only $200 more expensive.

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Post by Aperocky »

robbiemitchell wrote: post #348

They focused on something obvious: influencer videos are filmed by someone else. What if you didn’t need someone else? Most drones are aimed at people who want to fly something. This is for people who want to be filmed. Totally different UX and priorities.

> influencer videos are filmed by someone else. What if you didn’t need someone else?

This is a solved problem though.. in much higher spec (and not that much more expensive).

Suppose you're an influencer I guess you can shell out a few hundred more for a proper drone.

> Most drones are aimed at people who want to fly something

Also if you're talking about the largest drone maker on the market (DJI, >50% market share). This is not true, they are literally flying cameras, the whole point of those drones are to take pictures and videos.

They don't stick a 4K resolution camera, 3D gimbal stabilization on a 250g drone because customer wanted to 'fly something'. They do it because it is used to make footage (I own one).

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Post by albrewer »

xarope wrote: post #351
roughly wrote: post #158

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I think this is going to be one of those things where we learn that nobody actually cares about any of that outside these forums. MP3s were garbage, early camera phones were garbage, Snap picture quality generally is garbage, bluetooth headphones suck, all of these things were and are decried by the tech community, and it turns out that people just don't care, because even at garbage quality it's still cool to have a…

I do some extreme sports for hobbies, where I am often the only person with the sense of mind to take shots with my trusty olympus TG2 (yes it's old, but still works) of others with me, whether underwater or 6Km above. My professional photographer friend often berates me for my framing, perspective, lighting choices etc, but when I'm hanging almost upside down and only using one hand covered by a mitt, whilst nobody…

The best camera is the one you have with you.

I have "terrible" pictures of all sorts of things but what's important are the memories attached to them.

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Post by mupuff1234 »

crowbahr wrote: post #396
mupuff1234 wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also worth adding that they are only up %6 from the IPO price.

IPO price is just what the most enthusiastic investors hope it's worth. It's worth more than that, sure, but the correction happened almost immediately after the IPO. Which is why being so far up from its bottom 2 years ago is important.

That's fair.

Although measuring it from March 20' is somewhat deceptive as the whole marked dipped, that wasn't snap specific.

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