Worth considering in context of the newly-created Department of Homeland Security Disinformation Governance Board. Given the infrastructure that’s already in place for NetzDG compliance in other markets, it seems plausible that it would be cited as a model for future American “disinformation governance”.
Digital Berlin wall: How the German prototype for online censorship went global
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#12Censorship is a crucial foundation of capitalism. Not just controlling the hegemonic narrative through media, etc. But also the founder of SciHub is stalked by the fedz for liberating science, etc. IP is censorship.
I don’t believe the historic record shows this to be true. The liberal democracies (all capitalist) of the west have the least amount of censorship in human history. Communist regimes would(and continue) send people to camps, monarchs would behead those who offended them, and empires would crucify dissenters. The actual material conditions of our history don’t really show capitalism as being particularly dependent on censorship compared to other governmental/economic systems.
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#13The colouring in the „World Press Freedom Index“ graphics doesn‘t seem to make any sense. Countries with very different placements on the index have a similar shade of red and the only greenish looking country is Vietnam, placed 175/180.
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#14One calls it censorship, someone else calls it protection of democracy and freedoms, because freedom of speech is not absolute and not of higher priority than other human rights. Human rights are always in conflict with each other: today USA is deciding to violate right of property for Russian oligarchs because rights of Ukrainian citizen are violated. Right for free movement was restricted during Covid pandemic for many people and often restricted as a punishment for crimes. How freedom of speech is so different that people cry about it without considering the context? Why people think that Germany is a model state for censorship, when there are states which censor media for real, before publication, do it for longer, more efficiently and to suppress opposition?
Just for reference, Germany has the same high HFI index as United States: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-i...
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#15What idiot believes that authoritarian governments were incapable of censorship until some democratic one decided to update their laws for misinformation /hate/defamation to also apply to social media / internet ? Bad faith article, I would use more competent authors to push my agenda.
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#16One calls it censorship, someone else calls it protection of democracy and freedoms, because freedom of speech is not absolute and not of higher priority than other human rights. Human rights are always in conflict with each other: today USA is deciding to violate right of property for Russian oligarchs because rights of Ukrainian citizen are violated. Right for free movement was restricted during Covid pandemic for…
Any censorship is disgusting and should be rejected. Regardless of context.
Disagreement with that means you're a threat to democracy, period.
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#17We can't have the hoi polloi just freely talking to each other willy nilly.
Re: Digital Berlin wall: How the German prototype for online censorship went global
#18Censorship is a crucial foundation of capitalism. Not just controlling the hegemonic narrative through media, etc. But also the founder of SciHub is stalked by the fedz for liberating science, etc. IP is censorship.
Patents are, like, the opposite of censorship. They're the government saying that if you want legal protection for your invention then you have to openly share exactly how you did it with the world. (Except for military patents.)
The legal protection includes the assurance that the government will use force to prevent others from engaging in certain expression or activities, on your behalf, under threat of financial penalties or worse.
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#19The text comes out in a condescending tone and most of it just sounds like "blah blah free speech"
But the core of the argument seems to be this
> vaguely defined categories of hate speech and fake news by placing responsibility on the social media platforms for user content. (this) creates big incentives for social media companies to over-regulate online speech and risk pushing extremists towards platforms that are even harder to survey.
If you take the liability out of the platform, you're pushing for deanonimization of content (which should be worrying as well)
When we talk about "free speech" we think mostly about our least-liked politician talking crap but there's a whole layer of stalking/threats/gaslighting (to most underserved users) that needs to be taken care of
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#20One calls it censorship, someone else calls it protection of democracy and freedoms, because freedom of speech is not absolute and not of higher priority than other human rights. Human rights are always in conflict with each other: today USA is deciding to violate right of property for Russian oligarchs because rights of Ukrainian citizen are violated. Right for free movement was restricted during Covid pandemic for…
So because others are worse Germany's laws are good?
I don't know but laws that allow someone to be locked up indefinitely without conviction don't sound like freedom to me.