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There Is No CD Revival

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Re: There Is No CD Revival

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post #17

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You do. They have some kind of a watermark or metadata specific to your copy but don't have DRM.

Look at that subtle off-white metadata. Oh my god, it even has a watermark.

Just the right amount of restriction. It just works.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#32
>I don’t think any of the writers or outlets publishing these headlines are out to mislead. But none of them seem to have consulted anyone actually trying to sell CDs, either

Nobody even bothered to read the original source report, much less make sense of it, or even gave the article they wrote a minute's thought. They saw the story somewhere else (perhaps got it from a wire service too), and rewrote it just enough to appear as an original article.

They could not care less about the content of the article, or what they were reporting. It's just another thing to post within a day to make the meagre salary they're paid, or to boost one's BS blog.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#33
post #16

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IANAL, but ripping a CD that you own and then using that digital music yourself is legal - providing the songs to someone else (who hasn't paid for the album) isn't.

> IANAL, but ripping a CD that you own and then using that digital music yourself is legal - providing the songs to someone else (who hasn't paid for the album) isn't. I am also not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that providing files you ripped to someone else ISN'T legal, even if they"ve paid for the album: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMG_Recordings,_Inc._v._MP3.... .

Of relevance: https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#34
post #21

If I'm buying physical media in 2022 that I actually need to find from a shelf and put into a player it either needs to be of higher quality than the digital option or have something else going for it. Thus, it's LP's for music in my case. The cover art alone is worth it. For movies and TV, I have the cream of the crop on physical Bluray or DVD, the ones that I want to see even if there is a license pissing contest b…

Ok, I guess the "something else going for it" differs from person to person. I grew up with LPs too, but I don't have a lot of nostalgia for them. All the ceremony of carefully taking a record out of its sleeve, checking for dust, putting it on the record player etc. is too much hassle for me. A CD I can just pop in the good old stereo I have sitting on my desk and listen to it, or rip it and copy the files to my pho…

> All the ceremony of carefully taking a record out of its sleeve, checking for dust, putting it on the record player etc. is too much hassle for me.

This is what I like about it really. It's quite a deliberate focussed thing. For most of my music listening when I just want noise in the background I stream it because it doesn't matter. But sometimes when you just want to sit down and enjoy something special, the ceremony seems to add something.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#35
post #18

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Making a COPY from the CD to your computer is not legal us unless you have a license that allows you to do so.

You say that, but other people say the opposite. I have no idea who's right. If you happen to have a link to a detailed legal analysis, with references, feel free to post it. I don't promise to read it myself but probably someone reading this is sufficiently interested in copyright law to read further.

For practical purposes the legality of ripping ones one own legally acquired cds is meaningless because it is impossible that one should face enforcement regardless of legality. A good argument could be had that in the US it is fair use however its hard to establish the legality given that in nearly 40 years in the US nobody has ever insofar as I'm able to discern ever had action taken against them solely for copying CDs to a computer or device for personal use.

DVDs are more complicated as tools to remove DRM are illegal under the DMCA.

There are 100 different jurisdictions and while the law is different the practical situation is the same. Who is exactly going to police you copying your own cds in your own home? How is bob from bob's records to discover you have copied it? One should have to convince congress to require Operating systems to rat you out to bob then convince users to use such systems.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#36
post #2

Many times, buying the CD and ripping it to FLAC* is the only way to legally acquire* music for use with your computer. * It must be lossless and high quality. * It must work offline.

Came here to make this observation. Is this what the ethical DJ would do?

Adjacent question: what’s the legally correct way to license music for public use (e.g. DJ set)

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#37
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making a COPY from the CD to your computer is not legal us unless you have a license that allows you to do so.

IANAL, but ripping a CD that you own and then using that digital music yourself is legal - providing the songs to someone else (who hasn't paid for the album) isn't.

It depends. If the CD has DRM, bypassing that DRM for a personal copy is a crime. If there's no DRM, I believe creating a personal copy is acceptable.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

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post #36
post #2

Many times, buying the CD and ripping it to FLAC* is the only way to legally acquire* music for use with your computer. * It must be lossless and high quality. * It must work offline.

Came here to make this observation. Is this what the ethical DJ would do? Adjacent question: what’s the legally correct way to license music for public use (e.g. DJ set)

You'd probably buy the music as a download file from an official store (like Beatport). In fact, a lot of good electronic stuff on there never saw a physical release, so ripping CDs is not even an option.

Licensing probably depends on your country. In Germany, you need to register with GEMA and pay a fee depending on the size of your audience.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#39
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IANAL, but ripping a CD that you own and then using that digital music yourself is legal - providing the songs to someone else (who hasn't paid for the album) isn't.

It depends. If the CD has DRM, bypassing that DRM for a personal copy is a crime. If there's no DRM, I believe creating a personal copy is acceptable.

The CD format doesn't support DRM. Extremely few CDs tried to fiddle to add it by adding errors, but modern readers aren't stopped from reading the audio.

CDs are pure audio data with error correction.

Re: There Is No CD Revival

#40
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say that, but other people say the opposite. I have no idea who's right. If you happen to have a link to a detailed legal analysis, with references, feel free to post it. I don't promise to read it myself but probably someone reading this is sufficiently interested in copyright law to read further.

It depends on the jurisdiction. I don't know what the status is in the US, but copies for personal use are legal in the Netherlands. In fact, you actually pay a "private copying levy" for most devices capable of storing media (blank CDs, hard drives, phones, etc.) Looks like there's something similar in a number of other European countries, but I don't know the details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_l…

Here in the UK, it's currently illegal - the High Court ruled in favour of the Musicians Union back 2015, and it's yet to be overturned (again).

The distinction is, that while it's NOT illegal to copy a CD to another format, it IS illegal to make a copy of something that has someone else's copyright on it, be it music, spoken word, written documents, videos or photos etc.

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