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Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beautifying photo-filters

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Re: Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beautifying photo-filters

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I'm going to buck the trend and say that candidates with attractive photos are quite possibly actually more competent. When hiring, I consider the content of a resume and not its aesthetics. But the people who go the extra mile to add polish: An attractive, well-formatted resume; being well-dressed for an interview; and even adding polish to a photo - are likely candidates who express the added attention to detail I'…

Perhaps the "polish" of the resume is a signal for "professionalism and attention to detail." But I worry that the professionalism of the resume is a signal mostly for wealth and social status, factors which should be ignored in the hiring process. So I think that unless the resume is atrociously formatted, its "polish" should be ignored. I read an article on LinkedIn [1] touching on a similar issue. The ideal resume…

Some fools will spell JAVA and GIT as things on their resume. Massive negative signal. This one I honestly calibrated: biggest sign you’re a clown is if you call this shit JAVA. Not even Fortran calls itself that.

Re: Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beautifying photo-filters

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Heard from friends who lived and worked in South Korea that it was pretty much mandatory for any resume application there. The specific one that comes to mind is nursing. Definitely left me baffled the first time I heard it.

Yep, pretty much mandatory in Korea. Everyone goes to professional photographers who apply copious amounts of photoshop, of course. You even get to pick your own image for your driver's license, again with a healthy serving of digital retouching.

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Re: Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beautifying photo-filters

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When I was in England for a short time I was tasked with screening candidates for employment (software engineers). As an American, I was taken aback by most of the resumes including photos. That's just not done here in the US. Some American HR departments might even send back your resume and ask you to resubmit it without a photo. It seems to be standard practice in Europe, perhaps to convince you that the person int…

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Re: Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beautifying photo-filters

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> In study 2, beautifying filters increased the hireability only slightly for White female applicants, followed by White and Black male applicants but substantially for Black female applicants It's a gross thing to consider but I wonder if the filter lightened the skin of black female applicants. These results are disappointing but unfortunately not surprising.

I remember stumbling across a "beauty rating" site that had an ML model trained to rate photos on beauty. At the risk of sounding conceited, when it gave me (black male) a bad score, I knew something had to be wrong. I went and searched for photos of famous black males generally accepted as attractive and noticed it also gave them poor scores. That gave me a hunch about what was going on, and lo and behold: taking th…

That shit is just some dude who put an ImageNet based model on the Internet. I remember going through one of these and getting “First time offender”. I was wearing an orange shirt. That’s a horrendous choice of colour, honestly, but I’ve never been actually caught for any of my crimes and it’s been a while since I committed them first.

Re: Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beautifying photo-filters

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There's a lot of data out there showing that attractiveness, fitness (as in, not obese), and tallness are all massive biases in the workplace -- much bigger in many studies than biases around gender and ethnicity even. I don't know why these forms of identity are almost entirely ignored, while we obsess over others. Imagine if tech companies published the height, weight, and facial symmetry of their workforces, like…

I've wondered if much of the gender discrimination in the workplace can be attributed to height discrimination, as women tend to he shorter. Is there data on how men and women fare adjusted for height? (This is obviously separate from any sexual harassment etc in the workplace -- I'm referring to compensation and promotions)

There's some great studies, (and, as I recall a few HN famous anecdotes) on just the effects of using feminine names in emails or resumes vs masculine ones.

Re: Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beautifying photo-filters

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When I was in England for a short time I was tasked with screening candidates for employment (software engineers). As an American, I was taken aback by most of the resumes including photos. That's just not done here in the US. Some American HR departments might even send back your resume and ask you to resubmit it without a photo. It seems to be standard practice in Europe, perhaps to convince you that the person int…

> When I was in England .. I was taken aback by most of the resumes including photos. That's just not done here in the US...

This does not match my experience in London working for SMEs, it's very rare that a CV includes a photo, especially tech role applicants.

Re: Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beautifying photo-filters

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When I was in England for a short time I was tasked with screening candidates for employment (software engineers). As an American, I was taken aback by most of the resumes including photos. That's just not done here in the US. Some American HR departments might even send back your resume and ask you to resubmit it without a photo. It seems to be standard practice in Europe, perhaps to convince you that the person int…

Not here in Sweden. Don't equate London/UK to Europe. Typical American.

Re: Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beautifying photo-filters

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, I see a few photos on CVs here in the UK - typically on Euro candidates though (from memory). On the other hand I've seen all sorts of weird shit on CVs, it is part of the fun. From the guy giving himself 5/5 stars for inter-personal skills, to the obscure hobbies expanded on in great detail, to the hilarious email addresses. There is just a wide range of views on what a cv should contain. My views doubtless diff…

I once saw "Never drank alcohol after birth" under "personal details" Power to you for living a healthy lifestyle but... you were big on chugging kegs before you were born?!

Morther drinks = goes to baby in utherus

Re: Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beautifying photo-filters

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When I was in England for a short time I was tasked with screening candidates for employment (software engineers). As an American, I was taken aback by most of the resumes including photos. That's just not done here in the US. Some American HR departments might even send back your resume and ask you to resubmit it without a photo. It seems to be standard practice in Europe, perhaps to convince you that the person int…

Not here in Sweden. Don't equate London/UK to Europe. Typical American.

To be fair, they at least said “seems to be,” which is a bit better than many Europeans who say similar things about Europe on this site, which I find even less excusable and seem to see daily.

On topic, it is quite common in a few other European countries, such as Switzerland and I believe Germany, so I imagine it’s at least much more common in Europe overall given that it’s relatively unheard of in the US.

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