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Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by lostcolony »

c0nducktr wrote: post #168
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your rankings make no sense to me. I don't understand why you deem someone who has separate social circles inside and outside of work as "less healthy".

Agreed. This appears to be the most best, and also most resilient option. God forbid you run into issues with your outside social circle, you've still got your work circle, and the other way around. I've only had option #1 happen once, and it was when I encouraged a few friends to apply at my company, and even then, it didn't really merge the social circles, I just had some people which were in both. I wouldn't do it…

Yeah; the few times I've suggested friends apply for jobs where I work, it's always been with the understanding "in a department different than mine". It's "hey, the culture, comp, and work here is pretty good, you might like it", not "let's work together".

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Post by jethro_tell »

jollybean wrote: post #188
carlivar wrote: post #71

I like that he specifically mentioned open floor plans. This is the number one reason why I don't want to return to the office. I kinda do want to go back. But I need my privacy and some quiet. I can't do the open floor plan ever again.

Make it known to your employer/s. This is a hugely stupid move that companies made. It was done because the benefits are tangible and immediate, and the costs are soft and indirect. CFO wins over HR. People should recognize what a big deal this is. I won't do it either.

lol, HR doesn't give a fuck.

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by Aeolun »

cwilkes wrote: post #173
outcoldman wrote: post #64

I know some people are very excited about that, and some think that is going to be a new norm. I have not worked for the corps for at least 4-5 years, but before that I always assumed there are only small amount of people who can really work for company remotely. I definitely saw people calling that they are going to work from home, but saw very little work to be done that day. Which probably means that people used t…

“I saw very little work being done” That’s an incentive problem not a “be in the office” problem. Or you’ve hired lazy bums. Or the work isn’t interesting enough. If the people are screwing around then fire them. More than likely the job is dull or not challenging or not rewarding enough. That’s a call for the company to step up their game and bring in A level talent. Or don’t and keep on getting the C team that’s on…

I don’t think this necessarily true. I can work just fine remote for weeks on end, but after a month of that I need a day in the office to recalibrate my focus.

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by imperialdrive »

anm89 wrote: post #69

Recently booked a 3 month stay in an airbnb in Denver. 5000$ a month which was a big sacrifice but I wanted to stay somewhere where I would be comfortable . I get to the place and it's nothing like the pictures. I tried really hard to evaluate this possibility but still couldn't catch it, they had done some really creative photography. The appliances are disgusting, the place smells like cigarettes and some kind of i…

Pretty sure the unspoken rule for years was to book the minimum then make contact for the rest at a good discount. Airbnb knows this which is why they charge such a high fee and don't give rats butt about most clients.

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by mdoms »

somethoughts wrote: post #112

I'm kinda of curious how this works if you are remote: "Most of you should expect to gather in person every quarter for about a week at a time. Some roles, especially senior roles, will be expected to gather more often. We’ll do our best to define windows when most large team off-sites will occur and give you plenty of notice so you can make it work with personal and family plans." Is this like just plan to be in the…

> If its the latter then that seems like it might be a non-starter for people with families.

If you can't make the time to spend a few days a quarter with your workmates in exchange for the most generous and fair remote working package then perhaps you're not a good fit for Airbnb. Which is totally fair. But they're not exactly taking the piss here. For many (many) people a week long retreat is a perk not a burden.

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Post by pkdpic »

zdragnar wrote: post #190
paulcole wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I still can't believe there's no catch Do you believe that remote work is a net gain for society but is a net negative for many individuals?

I think this depends largely on whether you live alone. I would never go back to an office, even part time. One of my best friends lives by himself and struggled hard during the covid-induced requirement to work from home. Much like schools double as a day care for children, work often doubles as a social club for adults.

well put for sure

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by Aeolun »

somethoughts wrote: post #112

I'm kinda of curious how this works if you are remote: "Most of you should expect to gather in person every quarter for about a week at a time. Some roles, especially senior roles, will be expected to gather more often. We’ll do our best to define windows when most large team off-sites will occur and give you plenty of notice so you can make it work with personal and family plans." Is this like just plan to be in the…

> If its the latter then that seems like it might be a non-starter for people with families.

Another new and perfectly legal way to discriminate!

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by dinvlad »

Aeolun wrote: post #191
dinvlad wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't agree more. Privacy of a small room but having people around when you _need_ them is the best of both worlds.

It must be possible for all the remote workers to gather together and actually rent/make an office like this right (with like, 10 people in, 10 small offices and a shared lunchroom/kitchen)? If you’re not looking for a bunch of profit the rent would sort of remain bearable too.

Depends on the company, I think. Some companies are geographically remote, so that's not quite possible. For others yes, things like WeWork exist although might be a little pricey (but probably worth it!). Or just a warehouse-type location equipped with temporary walls that could be rented too :-)

Re: Airbnb’s design to live and work anywhere

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Post by lostcolony »

basisword wrote: post #186
digianarchist wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Caveat emptor indeed. Most folks will end up working on tourist visas which is explicitly not allowed around most of the world. I work at a remote first company and HR have given a nod and a wink to this, but with the requirement that you maintain a permanent address and pay taxes in a country where they have an office.

>> Most folks will end up working on tourist visas which is explicitly not allowed around most of the world. Are you sure this is the case? You’re not allowed to get hired locally but I believe you can work online for a company based in your country of residence provided you don’t stay long enough to become a resident of the new country (which you can’t on a tourist visa). I visited Canada for 6 months on a tourist v…

Yeah; I'm pretty sure that isn't the case. They don't care if you do work online while visiting, just that you're not looking to stay or to take a local job (that they'd prefer to go to a resident). The legal language may be a little fuzzy since I bet it was written before remote work (telecommuting if it even existed at the time :P) was as much a thing, but I'd challenge anyone to find a case of someone penalized for working for doing their job remotely from another country.

That said, if you're working for a multinational company, you may want to be careful. Being hired in country A, for a company that has presence in both A and B, and then flying and working for a few months in B, could conceivably raise all sorts of flags if noticed.

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Post by hirako2000 »

tfehring wrote: post #174
jimkleiber wrote: post #53

> While you’ll be responsible for getting proper work authorization, we’re actively partnering with local governments to make it easier for more people to travel and work around the world. Today, 20+ countries offer remote work visas, and more are in the works. While working from different locations isn’t possible for everyone, I hope everyone can benefit from this flexibility when the time is right. I think currentl…

I think a couple dozen countries offer digital nomad visas now, the ones I've looked into in detail just require you to be employed remotely by a company outside the country and earn at least a couple thousand USD per month.

I do wonder which country would in effet cause troubles to travellers on a tourist visa, contributing to the local economy by renting a temporary home and other living expenses but happen to be working on their laptop every day of their 90 days trip.
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