(1) Healthiest = great social circle at work that bleeds into social circle out of work (2) Less healthy = great social circle at work, separate great social circle outside of work (3) Even less healthy = no social circle at work (just a job), great social circle outside work (4) Worse = great social circle at work, no social circle outside of work (I never seen this situation. If you have a great social circle at wo…
I'll be #5 no matter what. At least WFH I can see my daughter when I'm not working.
I like that he specifically mentioned open floor plans. This is the number one reason why I don't want to return to the office. I kinda do want to go back. But I need my privacy and some quiet. I can't do the open floor plan ever again.
Obligatory reminder that this stance isn't universal and some people do like open floor plans (such as myself).
Friends, family, kids, not having all your stuff, cultural and language barriers, etc… It’s pretty obvious why this doesn’t work for a large portion of people. I am glad for the child free and those who have little need for stuff - but it’s just not… realistic for the rest of us (who are the overwhelming majority of the population). It’s good for that niche 22-28 crowd.
It's actually pretty economical to have a second home in Latin America, with copies of all your creature comforts there. Kids get multicultural friends, new language, and much wider perspective on the world.
Are you speaking from experience or just making shit up? I can’t imagine this going well for some of the kids I know personally. (And kids that I do know who have done this have been “problematic” during these things)
Sounds nice in some ways. The stickler here is the focus on working in PST still. You’re not gonna get to travel to the EU and work async it sounds like. Which - while making sense - isn’t going to make a good portion of people who want this particularly happy. After all - remote but stuck in one time zone for working hours isn’t really a huge win. It’s dangling a carrot. In other news - sounds like comp is going dow…
"After all - remote but stuck in one time zone for working hours isn’t really a huge win. It’s dangling a carrot." that's a pretty realistic approach in my opinion. My company has people in India and Europe and it sucks royally to set up meetings with them. Either they have to work at night or the US people have to. If I had to decide, I would mandate at least a 4 hour overlap in working times.
I never said it wasn’t practical or realistic. It’s still dangling a carrot though for the people that really care about this though.
When the kids are younger, they don't really need to stick with a specific curriculum throughout the year. As they get older, I imagine the need to dictate your schedule around school increases. And if they're at a boarding school, that really frees up your planning.
Why bother having children if you're just going to shove them into boarding school?
That's a different conversation entirely about what you think of boarding schools and your reasons for having children.
Hopefully your reasons for having a child are compatible with the child spending time away from you cos that's going to happen eventually. Your comment suggests you're making a lot it assumptions about what it means for someone to be in a boarding school...
I think a lot of founders and their friends are using the office as a replacement for a healthier separate social circle and social life that they lack (a lot of people lack that, and they do too), so for them they're really just hanging out and like the potential for “increased collaboration” for that reason
(1) Healthiest = great social circle at work that bleeds into social circle out of work (2) Less healthy = great social circle at work, separate great social circle outside of work (3) Even less healthy = no social circle at work (just a job), great social circle outside work (4) Worse = great social circle at work, no social circle outside of work (I never seen this situation. If you have a great social circle at wo…
This seems a little too idealistic, I'm afraid. It'd be amazing to have friends from work with whom one could start companies outside etc. But most folks perceive a job as just "a source of income", nothing more. And that is healthy on its own, otherwise we're in a perpetual servitude of the employers, because we link our personal happiness to "the job".
If this becomes the norm then it's the end of SF as a tech hub. A big move for a company paying the sorts of salaries it does.
> it's the end of SF as a tech hub People love to predict this, they seek it. Perhaps it feels like pushing against some establishment (when it's serving another establishment). It's trendy now, which affects people who follow trends, but trends change fast. Talented people want to be around other talented people; smart, intellectually curious people want to live where there are great restaurants, arts, beauty, sophi…
It’s gotten pretty ridiculous in some neighborhoods. I don’t feel like a trend follower by leaving, and I don’t think random internet chatter influenced my decision.
What about school? It’s nice for summer break but it’s really hard to take kids out of school or to switch schools mid year.
When the kids are younger, they don't really need to stick with a specific curriculum throughout the year. As they get older, I imagine the need to dictate your schedule around school increases. And if they're at a boarding school, that really frees up your planning.
> And if they're at a boarding school, that really frees up your planning.
From the language you’re using, it sounds like you are saying this is a possible way for this snow bird to LA lifestyle to work for a family.
But that you have not tried it yourself. Is that right?
Ive worked for a coding bootcamp since before covid. We used to be in person only and Ive gotten to see the ups and downs of the full-remote transition for at this point hundreds of jr devs entering the field. Long story short everything I thought would get negative blowback or go up in flames didnt. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and it never does. Our students work through around 1000 hours of computer s…