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Swedish PM says integration of immigrants has failed, fueled gang crime

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Re: Swedish PM says integration of immigrants has failed, fueled gang crime

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I wonder if we'll ever get over the hump in human development of assuming "bigotry" as the root cause of everything bad in the world. obviously it exists, but the world is more nuanced than "bigots ruin everything for non-bigots" being the core of every issue. by no means is it a mystery as to how we got here, but still, it's disappointing that we seem to have sort of high-centered on this false idea that unlimited tolerance is the only solution to everything and anything short of it is just plain old-fashioned "bigotry", and we seem to lack the means of getting unstuck. it's pretty hard to be optimistic about this—the "bigotry" narrative is very appealing and easy to take at face value without putting any further thought into the issues at play. everyone wants to be a good person (or at least think of themselves as such).

Re: Swedish PM says integration of immigrants has failed, fueled gang crime

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This was obvious from the start just looking at their refugee numbers and the fact that they didn't have enough experience with immigration.

This whole thing is a bit of a mindfuck for me because I can't find any logical reason for what Sweden has done. I think the government has actually acted out of pure humanity and accepted so many refugees without thinking through any of it and now they're paying the price.

Compare that with Canada who picks and chooses their immigrants and has a 100-year outlook on the future of their demography.

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I wonder if we'll ever get over the hump in human development of assuming "bigotry" as the root cause of everything bad in the world. obviously it exists, but the world is more nuanced than "bigots ruin everything for non-bigots" being the core of every issue . by no means is it a mystery as to how we got here, but still, it's disappointing that we seem to have sort of high-centered on this false idea that unlimited…

actually yes we will. a little external pressure has already brought a lot of nations to reconsider their priorities

Re: Swedish PM says integration of immigrants has failed, fueled gang crime

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Sweden admits the Left is IN-correct?

Not sure it was “the left’s” fault.

It was Olof Palme, a famously leftist prime minister that facilitated refugee immigration – but Sweden also had much more “aggressive” integration policies. There was more effort put into training to get immigrants into the labor market, housing was less segregated… a lot of that ended and it will continue to get worse as the country turns right wing.

But it’s going to happen with other staples of Swedish society. Give it just a year or two until there’s a “is Swedish welfare unsustainable?” and the answer will be the same: No, the right is just strangling it.

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