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Are the Great Lakes really inland seas?

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Re: Are the Great Lakes really inland seas?

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You've misquoted the article, and as a result, have confused your pronouns. Nowhere does the article suggest that the USCG operates in the Black Sea.

But the link they provide shows just that. Which I found surprising.

Re: Are the Great Lakes really inland seas?

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"They hold more than a fifth of Earth’s unfrozen fresh water" I read quite a few stories about the horrible drought in the west, and here I am sitting on a good part of all the usable water in the entire world. I can't help but think at some point a bunch of people are going to come for that water, in one way or another. Either by moving here, or trying to move it there. Some ideas have been floating around about tha…

> Either by moving here

That's one of the reasons I'm staying where I am.

> trying to move it there

Being that they straddle the US / Canadian border, it's legally much more difficult to mass pump water out of them. Probably the main reason it hasn't happened yet.

Re: Are the Great Lakes really inland seas?

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"They hold more than a fifth of Earth’s unfrozen fresh water" I read quite a few stories about the horrible drought in the west, and here I am sitting on a good part of all the usable water in the entire world. I can't help but think at some point a bunch of people are going to come for that water, in one way or another. Either by moving here, or trying to move it there. Some ideas have been floating around about tha…

Would the energy used pumping the water from the quite low lakes, over the Rocky Mountains and Sierras to the west coast be less than a desalination plant?

Another option is just moving the water usage closer to the usable water.

Re: Are the Great Lakes really inland seas?

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Seas or not, I love the lakes and the land around them, in the 20+ years since I moved myself here they've taken over my heart. I'm from the aspen parkland of central Alberta; thin trees, dry air, small muddy leach-infested kettle lakes, big skies, poplar and birch land. When I was 8 we did a trip across Canada, and I remember us camping by the shores of Superior when a massive thunderstorm came rolling in, and it left a lifelong impression on me. When I was 16 I did an exchange with a family in rural Ontario near Huron, and the moment I saw the rolling green hills, the maples and oaks, the cyan waters of Huron lapping against the limestone, the heavy humid air, the wild grapes crawling on every fence, I was sold. In my early 20s I moved to Toronto for work, and I've been near Lake Ontario since. I'm an atheist, a materialist... but there's something deeply spiritual about the Great Lakes, powerful and intimidating like the ocean but more accomodating in their fresh water and the fact that massive as they are, they're more finite than the ocean. My wife participated in an archaeological dig down on some low flat lands near the shore, on a calm inland bay near here some years ago. The ceramic cookware, the copious fish bones, the arrowheads and fish hooks, it was fascinating how the lake has been giving rich life to people here for thousands of years; in fact so diminished now from what it was then when fish were more abundant.

They're pretty awesome, these lakes. I am not sure people who grow up next to them (like my kids) appreciate what they are in the same way?

Re: Are the Great Lakes really inland seas?

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Its all semantics of course but what the article doesnt mention is flow. I cant think of another sea that drains into a river. Edit: in fact the word 'lake' is derived from meaning to drain ('leak' is similar)

The Bosphorus and Dardanelles, between the Black Sea and the Aegean/Mediterranean, are quite a lot like a river. There are both shorter and wider bodies of water that are considered rivers.

Re: Are the Great Lakes really inland seas?

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I think to call it a sea it must be huge and salty. The arguments against this in the article is that Baltic sea is "pretty fresh", so it actually is salty. They also say the Dead sea is a lake, which is logical because it's tiny. If anyone can point to a sea that's not salty, I'd be happy to know. Until then, these are just lakes! Which is fine, because a sea is not better than a lake, and vice versa.

Re >> If anyone can point to a sea that's not salty, I'd be happy to know

Sea of Tranquility. Checkmate. (Okay, I'll show myself out...)

Re: Are the Great Lakes really inland seas?

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I think to call it a sea it must be huge and salty. The arguments against this in the article is that Baltic sea is "pretty fresh", so it actually is salty. They also say the Dead sea is a lake, which is logical because it's tiny. If anyone can point to a sea that's not salty, I'd be happy to know. Until then, these are just lakes! Which is fine, because a sea is not better than a lake, and vice versa.

The Sea of Galilee is actually freshwater. But on the other hand lake doesn't imply freshwater, e.g. The Great Salt Lake.

Re: Are the Great Lakes really inland seas?

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Its all semantics of course but what the article doesnt mention is flow. I cant think of another sea that drains into a river. Edit: in fact the word 'lake' is derived from meaning to drain ('leak' is similar)

The Bosphorus and Dardanelles, between the Black Sea and the Aegean/Mediterranean, are quite a lot like a river. There are both shorter and wider bodies of water that are considered rivers.

They don't have a one way flow though
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