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Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by cabalamat »

dnsmichi wrote: post #22
cabalamat wrote: post #4

Does this mean I can ewrite a web app, put the source on GitLab and have GitLab run the web app (ideally with very minimal hassle)? If not, what does it mean? What is Gitlab letting me do now than (a) it didn't do before (b) Github doesn't do?

GitLab team member here. > Does this mean I can ewrite a web app, put the source on GitLab and have GitLab run the web app (ideally with very minimal hassle)? Cloud Seed aims to make this easier, deploying the web application with minimal effort to your preferred cloud. More details in https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/cloud_seed/ and https://hello.cloudseed.app/ - it is a joint project from Google Cloud and GitLab. In case…

> In case you run your web app in a containerized stack, and prefer to deploy to Kubernetes, the integration with the Agent for Kubernetes has been greatly improved: https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/clusters/agent/

I've never used Kubernetes, but have seen it described as a PITA to set up and use, which is why I'm not keen on it.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by remram »

aendruk wrote: post #2

Old logo for comparison: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/gitlab-artwork/-/blob/9b07772f... Bonus: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/gitlab-artwork/-/blob/9b07772f...

I read the article and still don't understand what the new logo is. Did they just round the sides? Is it the start frame of that animation, with the ∞ symbol?

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by FooBarWidget »

lekevicius wrote: post #5

Old logo was probably the cleverest rendering of a fox using very few lines. The new logo is a lot less smart, much more standard. Typography is also uninspiring: seems to be using Inter, which is designed to not have any character (pun not intended). Although, to be fair, old logo also had very basic typography.

If Inter doesn't have character, then which font has character? How does one pick a font that has character?

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by systemvoltage »

itslennysfault wrote: post #60
systemvoltage wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the distinction between DevOps and CI/CD? I thought CI/CD is DevOps.

DevOps is a methodology.

Well, I was trying to clarify this statement from OP:

> DevOps become center part of Gitlab which we don’t use and need any of those feature. We all need a code storage, code review, issue tracking and the CI/CD.

It reads to me like this: "We don't use DevOps features in Gitlab, but we use CI/CD pipelines in Gitlab". So it is contradicting. As they responded, CI/CD is a subset of DevOps methodology.

I've used Gitlab and didn't know there were more DevOps tools other than their CI/CD features and runners.

I am still slightly confused.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by [deleted] »

systemvoltage wrote: post #49
sercand wrote: post #30

This is why we left Gitlab. DevOps become center part of Gitlab which we don’t use and need any of those feature. We all need a code storage, code review, issue tracking and the CI/CD. We would pay advance features of those (epics, multiple assignee, etc) but we have to pay super expensive top tier which includes unnecessary DevOps stuff. We left and happy so far. We are using Kubernetes and custom DevOps tools but d…

What's the distinction between DevOps and CI/CD? I thought CI/CD is DevOps.

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Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by afandian »

nicoburns wrote: post #59
afandian wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I should say that I respect and admire GitLab's pursuit of financial sustainability and not selling themselves too cheap. But the resulting culture, combined with the actual product experience, is offputting. The issue tracking and labelling system is fine for what it is, but not good enough for planning projects. The Epics and Milestones functionality appears thrown together and isn't useful for much (we tried). Mis…

> But moving to Jira for issue tracking and planning, and so far it's much nicer. Wow, Jira being better is really damning. FWIW, there's a lot of competitors to Jira these days, and most of them are much better. We're using Shortcut, and it's been excellent.

Yeah we went into it with eyes open. I know "everyone hates Jira".

We did evaluate Shortcut (formerly Clubhouse) and I did talk to a sales engineer.

We weren't able to make our issues open to the public, which was a serious blocker.

It wasn't clear how we would differentiate between user stories, bug tracking, epics, planned work, etc. And how to handle and track support and operational issues.

The response in the org (we're not all devs) has been almost universally positive, and very favourable compared to our GitLab issue-tracking experience.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by sercand »

systemvoltage wrote: post #64
itslennysfault wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DevOps is a methodology.

Well, I was trying to clarify this statement from OP: > DevOps become center part of Gitlab which we don’t use and need any of those feature. We all need a code storage, code review, issue tracking and the CI/CD. It reads to me like this: "We don't use DevOps features in Gitlab, but we use CI/CD pipelines in Gitlab". So it is contradicting. As they responded, CI/CD is a subset of DevOps methodology. I've used Gitlab…

DevOps is whole set of tools. Gitlab includes features like monitoring, code scanning, Kubernetes integration, docker registry, cloud security and protections. And those are $1188 per year per person. By CI/CD I mean good old Jenkins that runs on a computer in the office that builds iOS Apps and uploads them to Apple AppStore (of course current generation of CI/CD is much better). Gitlab CI/CD and runners were there much before this "Gitlab is the one DevOps platform" saga.

Everyone in our company including HR, marketing, design people were also using Gitlab for task tracking. Therefore we need those fancy issue tracking features for better management. This features are in the tier that $1188/year per person. For the features we don't use is not something that we could afford.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by dijit »

Before I clicked I already knew it would incorporate the horizontal lemniscate... that seems to have become synonymous with devops.

I'm extremely tired of that symbol at this point, I mean there's 4 of those images when I google for "devops" and nothing else: https://i.imgur.com/pr9d8KH.png

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by boleary-gl »

cityzen wrote: post #15
john_cogs wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GitLab logo/mascot is actually a tanuki, a Japanese racoon dog. It symbolizes our values as a smart animal that works in a group to achieve a common goal.

Be honest, you picked it because Tanuki Mario is the best Mario.

...I mean. It doesn't hurt ;)

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by Dayshine »

pyrophane wrote: post #28

Anyone have experience with gitlab's Auto-DevOps stuff? Haven't really had an opportunity to use it (I do use their CI product) but am curious how people who've tried it find it.

I just don't understand what it is even supposed to be. We have what should be the simplest pipeline ever with dotnet. It could be three lines, dotnet test, dotnet publish, then create the docker image.

But it doesn't seem to support dotnet.

Oh, so maybe it can automatically rebuild our docker images? No, that's not what they mean by auto either.

How about tests? No, they only support JUnit format with a terrible ui. And no history.

Coverage or code quality? No, not really.

Github on the other hand has one click pipeline actions.

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