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Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by abdusco »

systemvoltage wrote: post #49
sercand wrote: post #30

This is why we left Gitlab. DevOps become center part of Gitlab which we don’t use and need any of those feature. We all need a code storage, code review, issue tracking and the CI/CD. We would pay advance features of those (epics, multiple assignee, etc) but we have to pay super expensive top tier which includes unnecessary DevOps stuff. We left and happy so far. We are using Kubernetes and custom DevOps tools but d…

What's the distinction between DevOps and CI/CD? I thought CI/CD is DevOps.

CI/CD is part of Devops. It also includes monitoring systems, keeping them up, maintenance, upgrades necessary to keep the software working.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by fallat »

andyonthewings wrote: post #41
lucideer wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the intent of the redesign was to make this more apparent, it also failed in that goal. Old and new both look like a fox. Old(er) tanuki-like logo for comparison https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/gitlab-artwork/-/blob/9b07772f...

Wait, but the other image file is named fox.png? https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/gitlab-artwork/-/blob/9b07772f...

That's pretty damn funny.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by andrei »

100011_100001 wrote: post #42
sercand wrote: post #30

This is why we left Gitlab. DevOps become center part of Gitlab which we don’t use and need any of those feature. We all need a code storage, code review, issue tracking and the CI/CD. We would pay advance features of those (epics, multiple assignee, etc) but we have to pay super expensive top tier which includes unnecessary DevOps stuff. We left and happy so far. We are using Kubernetes and custom DevOps tools but d…

This is happening everywhere. The current industry cycle is one of scope expansion, moving away from the do one thing well paradigm. This will lead to bloated software that do a little bit of everything but not very well, which will trigger the next industry cycle, of doing one thing well paradigm.

I've heard this talked about before, and I believe there's a phrase for it, but I don't remember. Do you happen to know?

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by teknofobi »

andrei wrote: post #54
100011_100001 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is happening everywhere. The current industry cycle is one of scope expansion, moving away from the do one thing well paradigm. This will lead to bloated software that do a little bit of everything but not very well, which will trigger the next industry cycle, of doing one thing well paradigm.

I've heard this talked about before, and I believe there's a phrase for it, but I don't remember. Do you happen to know?

Bundling and Unbundling https://stratechery.com/outline/bundling-and-unbundling

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by yewenjie »

i_like_waiting wrote: post #21

>DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab Yeah, just had a call with them and they confirmed that for only VCS its not feasible to use their platform. What are people migrating to? I am looking at bitbucket again I guess.

I have been following OneDev and seems like it is going to be a good contender.

https://github.com/theonedev/onedev

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by cabalamat »

john_cogs wrote: post #9
cabalamat wrote: post #4

Does this mean I can ewrite a web app, put the source on GitLab and have GitLab run the web app (ideally with very minimal hassle)? If not, what does it mean? What is Gitlab letting me do now than (a) it didn't do before (b) Github doesn't do?

GitLab team member here. You may want to check out (and sign up as a beta tester) for Cloud Seed, an open-source program led by GitLab Incubation Engineering in collaboration with Google Cloud: https://hello.cloudseed.app/

According to that URL:

> Deploying web applications from GitLab to major cloud providers should be trivial.

Yes, that's what I want! I find it easy to develop web apps in Python, but a PITA to deploy them.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by nicoburns »

afandian wrote: post #36
harabat wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you be able to list some of the negative developments you expect from GitLab going forward? For example, I know they are reducing support for Free Tier on their managed instance ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30791162 ). Is that the kind of thing you're talking about? What would you recommend instead? Gitea?

I should say that I respect and admire GitLab's pursuit of financial sustainability and not selling themselves too cheap. But the resulting culture, combined with the actual product experience, is offputting. The issue tracking and labelling system is fine for what it is, but not good enough for planning projects. The Epics and Milestones functionality appears thrown together and isn't useful for much (we tried). Mis…

> But moving to Jira for issue tracking and planning, and so far it's much nicer.

Wow, Jira being better is really damning. FWIW, there's a lot of competitors to Jira these days, and most of them are much better. We're using Shortcut, and it's been excellent.

Re: Gitlab New Logo: DevOps Is at the Center of Gitlab

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Post by itslennysfault »

systemvoltage wrote: post #49
sercand wrote: post #30

This is why we left Gitlab. DevOps become center part of Gitlab which we don’t use and need any of those feature. We all need a code storage, code review, issue tracking and the CI/CD. We would pay advance features of those (epics, multiple assignee, etc) but we have to pay super expensive top tier which includes unnecessary DevOps stuff. We left and happy so far. We are using Kubernetes and custom DevOps tools but d…

What's the distinction between DevOps and CI/CD? I thought CI/CD is DevOps.

DevOps is a methodology.
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