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Re: Tired of Being Tired

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good article, but it left out a major factor. food. eating right is so important for energy. i went from normal everyday lebanese food to eating mostly high raw vegan foods and i cannot get enough day for the energy i have. i'm never tired in the afternoon, i don't drink coffee, i get most my protein from spirulina, and i juice every day.

drinking a lot of water is super important as his mentions, but, try to drink 1-2 liters before when you wake, before anything else goes down your throat and you will noticed a drastic change in your body.

Re: Tired of Being Tired

#83
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Your experience is consistent with research, eg. http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/news/20110323/sleepy-pe... Not only does skimping on sleep raises your calorie consumption, but it seems that tired people show increased preference for fats.

fat doesn't make you fat.

sure it does, fat is high in calories, an excess of calories are stored by your body as fat. Of course, it's possible to get fat by eating calorie dense but low fat food. But it's a lot easier to get fat eating fatty food because of the high calorie / high reward nature of it.

Re: Tired of Being Tired

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As you get seriously fit, your clothing options are somewhat constrained as well. Ask any squatter about buying jeans ... at your own risk.

It's a shame that's being downvoted ... I heard multiple people (who do proper weight training) complain about the fact their jeans or trousers get worn fast because their hips are well-developed and sort of brush against each other when they walk. I bought a suit recently - the coat (jacket) fit perfectly, but they had to take like 10 cm off the waist of the pants, so I had to come back in 4 hours ... tells you a bi…

I'm actually getting to the point where my jackets no longer fit. My training is for strength, not mass, but you're still going to get a certain amount of hypertrophy.

Unfortunately I seem to have developed this habit just as fashion trends are toward ever skinnier designs -- jeans, shirts, slacks, etc. I haven't quite gone to full bespoke clothing, but I'm considering it.

Casual wear -- shorts and t-shirt -- still works well.

The other tendency I've noticed is that my body temperature is running warmer. I'll see people bundled in coats and scarves while I'm in shorts/t.

And no, I'm definitely not arguing against getting fit.

Re: Tired of Being Tired

#85
post #83

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fat doesn't make you fat.

sure it does, fat is high in calories, an excess of calories are stored by your body as fat. Of course, it's possible to get fat by eating calorie dense but low fat food. But it's a lot easier to get fat eating fatty food because of the high calorie / high reward nature of it.

No, fats are most likely not the problem, It is much more likely that sugars are.

While it is true that the same amount of calories lead pretty much to the same storage of fat, this fact is irrelevant.

I think that the question that we should ask ourselves is why we eat more calories than necessary, and the answer is not necessary a psychological one, or one that needs to invoke the nebulous concept of willpower.

Intake of sugar (most pronounced with rapid absorption of sugars) leads to high blood sugar concentration, which will need to lead to an insulin response to counteract it. The secretion of insulin will make you end up with a lower blood sugar as before the meal, which will lead to a higher appetite.

Isocalorically, fat will not lead to such a pronounced curve, so you can extend the times between meals. There is no physiological need to eat food every few hours, as you might have been told.

Sugary foodstuffs are also typically binge-foods, like ice-cream, cookies, milkshakes, soda, crisps, fries, or pizza. (I am aware that some of this foodstuffs also contain fats, but my argument is that stuffs high in fat, but low in carbohydrates aren't typical binge-foods).

Additionally, most consumed carbohydrates are empty calories that are, opposed to fats, not necessary.

Low-Fat diets have no positive effects on cardiovascular mortality, so there is no reason not to eat a moderate fat, very low sugar diet, and decrease the physiological effects of overeating.

Re: Tired of Being Tired

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Couldn't agree more on this, throw out your alarm clock, it's killing you. Remove stress from your life, take a shotgun to stress and refuse to accept stressful situations / people. I've lost 100 lbs in the last three years, here's how and how much weight I lost (I tend to have long plateaus). I started on Nov 25, 2008: 285 lbs Nov, 08: First Step, got Divorced: Lost 10 lbs - 275 lbs Jan, 09: Job tells me I have to b…

I don't really understand why fat people are so... well, upset at being fat. What I mean is, I would personally be OK with myself if I were 285lbs. Ok, this comment isn't really coming across very well. What I'm saying is, at worst, being fat would only shave ~20 years off my life expectancy. Since I don't want to live until I'm 70 anyway, I'd personally be happy with a ~50 year total life expectancy. I don't care wh…

I don't really understand why fat people are so... well, upset at being fat.

I'm not sure I can help you any with this question. I used to be 245 and I'm female. If the OP is male/taller than me, that may be comparable. Like the OP, I worked on getting my life back and that had the unintended consequence of also leading to significant weight loss. (I had zero goal to "lose weight" and was fine with how I looked.) I can't tell you how much weight I have lost because I haven't weighed myself in over 5 years.

I kind of think that excess weight is not The Problem per se but perhaps a proxy? I mean, I got myself healthier and that's why I lost weight. I think a lot of very heavy people don't know how to live right and that's a) the real reason they are miserable and b) also, coincidentally, the cause of their excess weight. Maybe they don't know how to clearly distinguish the two things and perhaps think "all would be right with the world if only I could lose the weight" when it might be more accurate to say it runs the other direction (ie if all were right in their world, they would probably also lose the weight).

I actually have mixed feelings about losing the weight. I like my body more because it no longer tortures me (I stopped having chronic pain about 2.5 weeks ago) but I'm not entirely comfortable with total strangers taking so much notice of me these days.

Re: Tired of Being Tired

#87
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As you get seriously fit, your clothing options are somewhat constrained as well. Ask any squatter about buying jeans ... at your own risk.

That's OK because the more ripped you are, the less clothes you need to wear =)

As much as I find myself disliking wearing clothes as I get older, I'm not particularly exhibitionistic either. So I prefer wearing at least putatively conventional clothing.

Still, a fair point.

Re: Tired of Being Tired

#88
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I cannot stress how much I agree about exercise. About 6 years ago I started going to the gym regularly* and lifting. That was really one of the best single changes I've made in my life. I feel more energized during the day (no more coffee!) and I feel like my mental acuity is higher. My memory seems better and I'm generally in a much better mood (partly because I look so much more fit!) * When I say regularly, I mea…

For me tipping point was having gym right in the next building - when I started to work for the company that has gym on site (you can guess which company is that), I was just so easy tongo and exercise after work without extra hassle. I alway had gym membership, but proximity really makes it low barrier to actually exercise regularly. I now workout at least 2 times a week, often 3.

When we were discussing gym choice for my wife, my suggestion was "the one right across from your office, walking distance makes all the difference".

Re: Tired of Being Tired

#89
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Sure! Dietary fat is pretty good for you and absolutely doesn't translate into body fat per se, that is influenced by many factors including carb intake.

It seems to be metabolized (into glucose?) much more evenly than carbs.

No, lipids are metabolized directly as lipids (via lipolysis). In the absence of sufficient dietary carbohydrate, some lipids may be transformed into ketone bodies via a process called ketosis, to provide an alternate fuel for the brain. This is what the Atkins and other very low carbohydrate (Dietary carbohydrate (other than fructose) is directly metabolized by cells as glycogen. Two tissue types (brain and red blood cell) prefer glycogen, red blood cells require it. Your body can store about 200g of glycogen split between the liver (~100g) and skeletal muscle. Liver reserves can fuel any body function, muscle stores fuel just that muscle. Excess carbs are converted (by the liver) into fats, and stored as same via the insulin/glucagon endocrine balance. Look up the Krebs Cycle for more information.

Dietary fats serve as long-term, low-rate fuel for skeletal muscle and organs (other than the brain and red blood cells), and is either metabolized directly or stored as adipose tissue.

Dietary protein isn't metabolized directly. It's used for structural processes as its component amino acids, some of which can be synthesized by the body, but some (essential amino acids) cannot be, others are rate-limited to a degree that dietary supplementation is occasionally recommended. Protein (dietary or from body tissues) can be converted to glycogen through a process called gluconeogenesis. This occurs both in low-carb diets and during starvation.

Re: Tired of Being Tired

#90
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It's uncomfortable. You get chronic back pain. Your joints age faster. As you “grow”, clothing options shrink. People assume you’re lazy. Flying becomes uncomfortable. Don't ever assume you'll never need to run. Running is a natural reaction to discovering the building you’re in is on fire, for example.

As you get seriously fit, your clothing options are somewhat constrained as well. Ask any squatter about buying jeans ... at your own risk.

Yeah, I ran into that in my youth (not from lifting, but cycling combined with allegedly overly broad shoulders for my then-size).
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