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Re: Infinite Mac

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Post by chris37879 »

royalewithchees wrote: post #140
mihaip wrote: post #99

Creator of the site here. There's a blog post with the technical details if you're curious about how it works and whose work it builds on: https://blog.persistent.info/2022/03/blog-post.html There are also a couple of variants that boot either System 7.5.3 or KanjiTalk 7.5.3 (the Japanese version of MacOS): https://system7.app/ and https://kanjitalk7.app/

Is there a way to use appletalk on a LAN? I would love to get a game of multiplayer bolo going in my office.

There is! netatalk on linux is the package you need for that, and it's still built in to BSD, I believe. now weather that package still speaks the older versions of the protocol, who can say. Interestingly, a challenge you would have with this because this emulator is web based, your networking options would be fairly limited, even if you could emulate netatalk, the browser's security features would preclude you accessing hosts than the server it's on, it's the same reason Fabrice Bellard didn't add networking to his jslinux project.

Re: Infinite Mac

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Post by skykooler »

zmmmmm wrote: post #252
JKCalhoun wrote: post #86

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I'm of two minds. The Mac famously had User Interface Guidelines that tried to keep everything consistent. I loved it and, like you, miss it. But then designers came along and we got drawers (and then we lost the drawers), editable toolbars, brushed metal (and then not), etc... The point at which I called bullshit was when Safari combined the URL text field with the loading progress bar. I disagreed with the design a…

I'm happy for people to try things, but please at least draw outlines around / highlights on the actionable UI elements. We're at a point now so far into flat UI extremism that opening a new application is like a giant guessing game to find out which parts of the UI you can click on and what they do. (Even the HN page I am staring at right now has styled all the links to an indistinguisable gray / black that looks to…

I was just on a website - can't remember which - that said something along the lines of "to learn more, visit the documentation." I wasted a few minutes trying to find the documentation before realizing that the words "the documentation" were in fact a clickable link in the same color and font as the rest of the text, which you could only discover by hovering over those particular words.

Re: Infinite Mac

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Post by dkarl »

m_eiman wrote: post #126
giobox wrote: post #111

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For fuzz, anti and anti-aliasing issues, you can sometimes make them worse with a HiDPI display. All of these issues really boil down to render resolution not integer scaling to the display resolution. If the render resolution is an integer multiple of the display resolution or vice versa, you will generally always get beautiful crisp rendering - this is exactly the approach Apple adopted, and is why they had to use…

Yes, it’s a shame that there are only two 5K 27” displays to choose from, and both are expensive. The industry has dropped the ball on this for years, all those 32” 4K screens may be cheap but they’re no use to me…

It's a shame Apple turned that into such a problem for their users, when Linux and Windows didn't. I guess they gambled wrong on how the market for monitors would evolve.

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Post by krallja »

jzer0cool wrote: post #250
NaturalPhallacy wrote: post #228

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I was able to start Marathon 2, but couldn't figure out the controls. (I didn't play it back in the day but knew of it)

This was my first multiplayer game on Mac and teaching myself AppleTalk, IP Addressing, etc — didn't work well except on a good school LAN. I can still hear the ... "they're everywhere, ahhhhh". I believe (or I want to believe) this game was a predecessor to Bungie's more popular console game Halo, but not sure.

The Pillar of Autumn has the Marathon logo on it, so there’s definitely crossover between the two universes.

edit: https://www.halopedia.org/List_of_Marathon_references_in_the...

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Post by lostgame »

ivank wrote: post #66
lostgame wrote: post #48

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I’m sorry this is so vague, I’m in transit right now; so I’m a little lazy to try to Google this from my phone - but there is some sort of proxy-type thing for these old Macs that allows you to use the ‘modern web’, to an…extent? I think it kinda works the way Opera Mini does or something, if that makes sense? It does totally solve the HTTPS issue. You could easily access HN using this method through even Netscape. T…

https://github.com/tenox7/wrp WRP - Web Rendering Proxy

Oh, wow; thanks for the link, this is very cute.

Re: Infinite Mac

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Post by zarzavat »

mihaip wrote: post #148
samstave wrote: post #129

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HOLY SHIT! You have a working ver of Bryce KPT! from 1994! Jeasus - that brings back so many shitty 3D city scapes I made back then/ Can you get Aldus Pagemaker (5.0 preferably, /r/beggingchoosers, and all that) running on this please.

I haven't tried this myself, but you should be able to download and install it from https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/aldus-pagemaker-50 (drag the .sit on the emulator, and it'll be copied to the "Downloads" folder). You can then use StuffIt Expander to unstuff the .sit and Disk Copy to mount the install images (both are in the "Utilities" folder)

Holy hell. Thank you for that website. When I was a kid I downloaded a game called “Foodfight” from the Internet cafe. However, when I got the floppy home, I attempted to run it on my dad’s Mac but it would not launch. For the last 25 years I’ve periodically wondered about that game, if it was any good or not, and why it didn’t launch (first mystery solved, it’s written in HyperCard!). I can’t wait to tell my dad.

Re: Infinite Mac

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Post by Yhippa »

mihaip wrote: post #104
nsxwolf wrote: post #36

I was hoping I could use Netscape Navigator to go to Hacker News and post a comment from it, but it has no network connection. And I guess it probably wouldn't be able to HTTPS.

https://oldweb.today/ gives you that experience, using some of the same building blocks.

Boy did I go down the rabbit hole today with this. I found so many sites from my past that I ended up looking up in the Internet Archive just now. I really miss the web from 25 years ago. Design was simpler and things loaded fast. The focus was on content, not chrome (and tracking the heck out of you).

I know this is rose-colored glasses but hell, even interacting with the old Windows and Mac OSes was a breath of fresh air. There are things that show their age but there are also things that make it really easy for me to find my way around a computer.

Thanks for the link. That was a great trip down memory lane. I wonder if we'll ever adopt some of that old stuff ever again.

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Post by bombcar »

tambourine_man wrote: post #253
Throw6away wrote: post #183

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Working Model, by Knowledge Revolution. I used to work there, and my first project was making the jump from 2D to 3D.

This is why I love this orange site.

Logged in users can change that color. For me it’s green.

Re: Infinite Mac

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Post by VonGuard »

mihaip wrote: post #99

Creator of the site here. There's a blog post with the technical details if you're curious about how it works and whose work it builds on: https://blog.persistent.info/2022/03/blog-post.html There are also a couple of variants that boot either System 7.5.3 or KanjiTalk 7.5.3 (the Japanese version of MacOS): https://system7.app/ and https://kanjitalk7.app/

Hey there! I opened Resedit and began deleting things in the System suitcase. Jammed the emulator up pretty good! Reloaded the page and it rebooted. Great work!
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