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Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

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Brain Drain:

Set aside any issues with employees not wanting to work for a Musk-run Twitter if they believe would be more toxic. I would still expect a lot of employees to look for the exit right now.

First is simply the uncertainty involved: Large restructuring, reassignments, or layoffs could occur and it's always nicer to find a new job before you begin to hate your old one or lose it all together.

Second is compensation: Equity via stock options or awards boosts total compensation, but it's much more complicated in private companies. There's been a commitment to the same benefit plan for the next year, but beyond that no new ones can be issued after the deal closes until Musk decides what they will look like. If he doesn't commit to keeping a similar vesting & award schedule then it will be a problem. Then there's liquidity. You can't sell private equity the same way you can with a public company. Again, if Musk doesn't commit to preserving the same liquidity as employees would have in a public company by allowing stock sales back to the company at-will then it will be a downgrade in compensation.

SpaceX uses an internal market to provide liquidity to employees for this, but Twitter will be more uncertain. It will depending on how many current investors decide to stick around & their appetite for increasing their shares. SpaceX is also on a strong growth track, giving awards & options a likely increased value in the future while Twitter is on much more uncertain footing, especially with Musk emphasizing that it's not an economic investment for him. A stock grant equal to $50k today at SpaceX might grow to $100k by the time an employee wants to sell, whereas the same grant at Twitter may not have the same expected growth.

It will also be difficult to hire new people until this is settled. Anyone accepting a job right now will have no idea when or how they'll be able to cash in any stock compensation promised in the benefits package.

As for the ideological issues, that may balance out. People leaving for such reasons by could be offset by new employees seeking jobs because they like the new content direction, although the extra churn will still make operations more turbulent for some time.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#993
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He's already said that he'd follow all local laws so it would be interesting to see if he can find the elusive path of maintaining free speech, following the law and not having Twitter being a toxic cesspool used mainly to shout down those not our your "side". Personally my reservations are because I think running a social media site is a lot about understanding people and defining a healthy culture for your elusive…

The bit about "following the law" was so poorly thought out. Musk's comments at TED made it seem like he both: (1) confused Bill of Rights guarantee that the government won't censor speech with some law that prohibits private companies from moderating speech on their platforms (not a thing) (2) failed to consider what it means to "follow the law" when your platform operates in multiple countries with incompatible law…

He personally considers Twitter to be an extension of the "town square", so he wants to apply the laws of the government and turn them into the operational bylaws of Twitter. If the US government allows it in a "town square" then it's automatically allowed on Twitter.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#994

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that Twitter is probably the best social media platform for interplanetary communication, where low bandwidth and delayed transmission are fundamental bottlenecks, and both limitations are considered part of the appeal (character limitations and a format where you simply disperse messages and have no real notion of when they'll be received). In that case, I wonder if the monetizatio…

>I'm surprised no one has mentioned[...]

Well, it seems you had a notably unique idea. Your comment got presented on the Timcast, and a 20 minute clip containing it has over 90,000 views at the time of writing this comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyrf5wLit34

I think a lot of the child comments have very valid criticisms, particularly concerns with bloat and other existing character limitations often being more about managing the user experience than bandwidth constraints. But your comment's a magnified part of the conversation now, so we'll just have to see how the narratives develop and the nuts and bolts of "interplanetary twitter" and the "Elon Musk NeuraStarLink Space Dystopia" actually plays out.

IMO, it's still too early to really expect much of interplanetary anything. I would expect Twitter to reach the end of its lifecycle and be replaced by something new, and then for that new technology to reach the end of its lifecycle and be replaced with another new thing which might be ready for integration in interplanetary communication.

Notable too, I think we're seeing here news people sympathetic to the right wing looking for large, active, engaged "intelligentsia" social media alternatives to twitter to quote comments from that use chilling moderation strategies. Ones that aren't completely overrun and saturated by fringe far right content refugees. Hacker news is probably going to get quoted more often by those kinds of sources until its owners/operators feel like taking some Illuminati Deep State money or whatever. That is, if there's any of that money left.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#996
The conspiracy theorist in me feels that the deal will not go through in a few months. It has not closed yet and there is a $1 billion rescind clause in the contract. Somehow I feel Musk just wants to show his power. This will end up with Twitter remaining public.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#998
post #631

Ways I think Twitter could immediately improve, from the perspective of users: - Optional verification check marks for anyone who wants them. Throw out the Blue Check status symbol. Offer "real person" twitter filter. - Transparent and consistent moderation policies. Bans are inconsistently applied for reasons that are often hard to figure out. - Return to a reverse chronological time and/or down selection of rage-ba…

reverse chronological simply won't work as a default without some constraints. Otherwise the "optimal" strategy for folks trying to game the system would be to just post constantly. Those who post seldom would get very little distribution as they'd be drowned out.

It would be nice to be able to force a reverse chronological order as a baseline but on top of that be able to filter by a user-selected threshold value of whatever measure they used to order with the other method. That way you could filter tweets by their purported level of importance while still keeping the order you want.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

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post #758
post #631

Ways I think Twitter could immediately improve, from the perspective of users: - Optional verification check marks for anyone who wants them. Throw out the Blue Check status symbol. Offer "real person" twitter filter. - Transparent and consistent moderation policies. Bans are inconsistently applied for reasons that are often hard to figure out. - Return to a reverse chronological time and/or down selection of rage-ba…

I've tried Twitter recently for the first time to get more recent information about the Ukraine war. Maybe long-term twitter users see it differently because they've fine-tuned it and got used to it, but to me Twitter looks like a horrible and awful medium. I just can't see any purpose for it. People on Twitter post opinions and are subsequently mocked and insulted by other people who also value their opinions above…

Your experience on mastodon is very dependent on which instance you're on.

There are 3 feeds - (1) home, your personal follows, (2) local, the people on your local instance and (3) federated, the people followed by anyone on your instance (+ stuff they boosted).

If you join a server somewhat aligned with your interests, you'll have a much better time.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#1000
post #41

He's already said that he'd follow all local laws so it would be interesting to see if he can find the elusive path of maintaining free speech, following the law and not having Twitter being a toxic cesspool used mainly to shout down those not our your "side". Personally my reservations are because I think running a social media site is a lot about understanding people and defining a healthy culture for your elusive…

Musk had no qualifications to run a rocket company. He didn't have much qualifications to run a car or solar company either. But he has done well by any measure of success. The only qualification that he seems to need is clear thinking based on first principles and genuine conviction and perseverance at super hard problems even while facing total personal destruction. And total personal destruction is always a real p…

I like Elon, too, but "no qualifications to run a rocket company" is simply delusional. He majored in physics at Penn and econ at Wharton and went to grad school at Stanford studying material science (for two days, just enough to get to signal being smart). I have a harder time imagining what kind of background would be better being CEO of a rocket company.

If he runs Twitter like 4chan, it will surely fail, but I think he has more to his plan than he is willing to share publicly at this time.

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