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Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by nailer »

plafl wrote: post #538
larrik wrote: post #467

I switched from Linux Mint desktop to an M1 Air last year. Performance-wise, the M1 is very impressive, probably feels about 80% as fast as my 6 year old desktop (that sounds like snark, but it isn't). Meanwhile, the battery life is insane (I've never brought the charger anywhere but my desk, and will often use it for a week out and about). I opted for the Magic Keyboard and Magic Touchpad, because I had a lot of tro…

> and macOS has good MS Office support. This. I get the M1 must be very good but what I really want is something I doubt I'm going to get: native Office support in Linux. I use Office rarely but on those rare occasions it sucks to use Office 365.

WSL gives you all the *nix bits of Ubuntu and native MS Office support.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by dahfizz »

caycep wrote: post #547
andrewjf wrote: post #524

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The whole selling point of Apple is that "it just works" It does (generally) just work! However, it works they way they want you to use it. That's fine for me and I usually am happy to adapt. It doesn't mean infinitely configurable.

it sort of reminds me of an interview someone did w/ a farmer's market vendor of gourmet jams/jellies....when they had a spread of 29-30 jams, no one bought any because it was too intimidating/confusion/bred indecision or whatever They changed their lineup to 6 jams and sales went thru the roofff

Okay, except this is nothing like that. Computer programs can have defaults.

When you don't like the default, you go to the settings screen to change it. If you don't want to deal with settings, you never have to open up the screen.

But the scroll settings is much more annoying than that. Apple provides two completely independent settings for "Mouse" and "Trackpad". Under each, there is a toggle for scroll direction. If you toggle one, it magically and silently toggles the other as well.

That's not "simple", that's not "easy to use", that's 100% bad UX. If there's only one global setting, why present it as two independent options which are magically linked?

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by robotburrito »

For me I love GNU/Linux, but it seems I miss the things my Mac has when I'm on it, and when I'm on my Mac I miss some of the things my GNU/Linux box can do.

Once mobile comes into play, it's literally not even a contest anymore, I gave up on trying to have a mobile experience as good as Mac.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by smoldesu »

natch wrote: post #541

Things I can’t do on my Ubuntu machine: - play audio - record audio - anything that relies on the above The author mentioned a common retort which is “you’re doing it wrong”… well in my case I most definitely am doing it wrong. I don’t know how, exactly, but no doubt. But point is with macOS I can do nothing and it still just works. Who knows what I would have to do to get my Ubuntu machine to work. And it might be t…

Pipewire has mostly fixed Linux audio, once it's fully adopted I expect these concerns to go away.

I'll agree though, even as a Linux user: audio sucks. For the past 20 years there's been like 3 different audio standards, each with their own advantages/flaws and nobody settled on one that we'd just all use. That's why pipewire exists: you can now mix-and-match between all of these systems and get a CoreAudio-like experience out-of-the-box. It's very nice, and I can genuinely not think of a single use-case that couldn't be served by it. You wanna screenrecord while recording from YouTube into your DAW while playing a game and livestreaming it all at the same time? PipeWire has you covered.

The real shame is window servers. Both xorg and Wayland are some of the worst software I've ever used, and neither of them even come close to Quartz on MacOS. It's the main thing that keeps Linux feeling like a server OS running desktop software; neither of these solutions are complete or stable. There's no replacement for them either, Wayland took more than 10 years to build and it's still awful and works on a small handful of software.

Desktop Linux will always be a niche experience. As someone who fits into that niche, I absolutely love it, but I'm not mad or confused when people say they simply don't like it; I get it, I really do.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by larrik »

ryandrake wrote: post #521
dahfizz wrote: post #487

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The mouse acceleration curve on Mac drives me insane. There is a way to set it to "0" with some command line incantation, but it still does not set it to 0. Also, the fact that I can't independently control the scroll direction of mice and trackpads is insane to me. The whole selling point of Apple is that "it just works" , but I can't even get my mouse working properly! That's like the lowest bar for an OS.

How do you "zero mouse acceleration" people survive? I have three monitors side by side. If I went with zero mouse acceleration, I'd need a 3 meter wide mouse pad in order to be able to move the mouse cursor edge to edge! Or do you do that mouse bicycle move where you constantly pick the mouse up, bring it back to its original position, move it some more, pick it back up, and so on? Such a weird subculture :)

Very fancy mouse with tiny precision.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by larrik »

plafl wrote: post #538
larrik wrote: post #467

I switched from Linux Mint desktop to an M1 Air last year. Performance-wise, the M1 is very impressive, probably feels about 80% as fast as my 6 year old desktop (that sounds like snark, but it isn't). Meanwhile, the battery life is insane (I've never brought the charger anywhere but my desk, and will often use it for a week out and about). I opted for the Magic Keyboard and Magic Touchpad, because I had a lot of tro…

> and macOS has good MS Office support. This. I get the M1 must be very good but what I really want is something I doubt I'm going to get: native Office support in Linux. I use Office rarely but on those rare occasions it sucks to use Office 365.

Yeah, Office 365 web version burned me hard too many times while collaborating. I had to switch to desktop only (which is still 365).

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by ryukafalz »

mattnewton wrote: post #531
ryukafalz wrote: post #508

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> Also, the fact that I can't independently control the scroll direction of mice and trackpads is insane to me. Oh yeah I just plugged a mouse into a work Mac recently and was super confused at this. Yes I’ve gotten used to natural scrolling on touchpads by now, but no that doesn’t mean I want it on a scroll wheel!

This starts to make sense when you see the mice that apple sells don't have wheels, they have a touch surface on top. And if you aren't using an apple mouse you're off the happy path and stuck toggling settings forever.

Yeah, I used to use a Magic Mouse years ago. They now aggravate my RSI terribly though. This kind of thing feels like Apple telling me their stuff is not for me.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by kube-system »

larrik wrote: post #467

I switched from Linux Mint desktop to an M1 Air last year. Performance-wise, the M1 is very impressive, probably feels about 80% as fast as my 6 year old desktop (that sounds like snark, but it isn't). Meanwhile, the battery life is insane (I've never brought the charger anywhere but my desk, and will often use it for a week out and about). I opted for the Magic Keyboard and Magic Touchpad, because I had a lot of tro…

> On Mac:

> * Open Spotify

> * Press play button on keyboard

> * Apple Music opens ??????

I just tried these steps. Spotify plays.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by wingerlang »

mmis1000 wrote: post #515
Mikeb85 wrote: post #503

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Window snapping is a pretty basic thing that every non-Mac OS and DE does... And it's annoying AF to not have it.

That's why people always use fullscreen in mac. Because window just don't really work well. The only time I ever use window is dragging file from finder to vscode. Because mac is dumb enough that don't allow drag happen between different desktop. (Or I would just drag file from finder to vscode on different screen)

Who are these people? I absolutely hate fullscreen in macOS and literally only use it for fullscreen videos and the like. What part of the window doesn't work well?
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