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Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by ttarr »

nfriedly wrote: post #52
JohnTHaller wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they send you back a Verizon phone? Verizon Pixels have locked bootloaders due to Verizon's own policies. They say they are "unlocked" but they only mean carrier-wise. Source: Owned a Verizon Pixel 1 that I sold due to it having a locked bootloader. Anecdotally, I purchased a 4a 5g from Google with a dead headphone jack. My replacement also had an unlocked bootloader though I think it was also new.

It was not branded as a Verizon model, but it seems to have the Verizon behavior of carrier unlocked, bootloader locked (and not unlockable). Based on anecdotes like yours, I believe Google stopped doing it after the Pixel 2, but that doesn't help me.

I don't think they stopped, my Pixel 3 XL is locked also in the same manner.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by deng »

nfriedly wrote: post #24

I'm still pissed at Google for locking the bootloader on my Pixel 2. I bought the phone unlocked directly from Google, specifically so that I could install a custom ROM once Google stopped supporting it. But I sent the phone in to repair a broken USB port, and apparently it was Google's policy to send back a phone with a locked bootloader any time you get a repair. I can't even get a response from Google's support ab…

I can guess what the reason for this is: probably every phone that leaves Google must pass SafetyNet, and an unlocked bootloader will make SafetyNet fail. This cannot be circumvented, see this thread from the Magisk developer:

https://nitter.net/topjohnwu/status/1237830555523149824

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by [deleted] »

jeroenhd wrote: post #104
hedora wrote: post #74

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GrapheneOS is able to support relocking the bootloader, but only works on Pixel devices (the bootloader lock is one of the main reasons they only work with Pixels). I personally think the booloader lock is of dubious value. It protects against physical attacks against the device (evil maid attacks). That's very low in the list of threats I worry about. (Though I am using GrapheneOS, and am happy with it.) I'd be more…

I think evil maid attacks are a realistic problem for anyone regularly travelling through airports. I think there are quite a few people who would like to know when someone tampered with their phone. Certain shady governments are known for demanding you hand over your phone if you look suspicious/foreign enough. I have no experience with GrapheneOS, but I've heard good stories so far. It's very good to hear that the…

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Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by FrenchAmerican »

deno wrote: post #92
orangepurple wrote: post #53

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When you run out of uses for your smart phone you can always convert it to a wifi LAN camera using IP Webcam by Pavel Khlebovich and consume the output in VLC. I have been using an old phone for this purpose successfully for years.

This is less useful than it sounds because there’s no integrated night vision, unlike even the cheapest ip cams. So really only works as a webcam.

How do you manage the battery? I would be afraid of a fire after x years being on all the time.

Note that I have no specific knowledge on the subject ; it's quite possibly a fear without any reasonable ground.

But I had a cheap speaker that I used with a Chromecast audio to listening to podcasts ; I left it always on and... I came back just in time one night, the speaker was producing a large dark smoke.

I almost put fire to one of the oldest habitation building in Paris (1704) - with a lot of apparent wood etc. :-(

Not proud of it, but good lesson. I recently read about the risk of fire in cheap replacement phone chargers. Google's ought to be of quality but... still a no-no for me.

Obviously, advice from people with knowledge on the issue will be appreciated.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by tjader »

SECProto wrote: post #115
lazyier wrote: post #34

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I won't buy a phone that I can't run LineageOS on. MicroG. Life is too short to struggle and play games with the spyware that ships on phones by default nowadays. Better to be able to blow it all away.

> I won't buy a phone that I can't run LineageOS on. MicroG. I won't buy one that doesn't have an aux port. Do you know any lineage-supporting modern phones that have an aux port (and an SD slot, ideally!) by chance?

You can filter for that on https://lineageosdevices.com/

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by ttarr »

SECProto wrote: post #115
lazyier wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't buy a phone that I can't run LineageOS on. MicroG. Life is too short to struggle and play games with the spyware that ships on phones by default nowadays. Better to be able to blow it all away.

> I won't buy a phone that I can't run LineageOS on. MicroG. I won't buy one that doesn't have an aux port. Do you know any lineage-supporting modern phones that have an aux port (and an SD slot, ideally!) by chance?

Poco F1, I'm sure newer ones have it too.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by Xeoncross »

I installed LineageOS and https://calyxos.org/ several times last year on different Pixel phones. CalyxOS is easier to install and all applications worked. Then again, all applications working is probably a by-product of it being easier so there is less a chance to misconfigure something.

Highly recommend either of these as a way to keep a perfectly good Pixel working.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by afavour »

orangepurple wrote: post #53
nfriedly wrote: post #24

I'm still pissed at Google for locking the bootloader on my Pixel 2. I bought the phone unlocked directly from Google, specifically so that I could install a custom ROM once Google stopped supporting it. But I sent the phone in to repair a broken USB port, and apparently it was Google's policy to send back a phone with a locked bootloader any time you get a repair. I can't even get a response from Google's support ab…

When you run out of uses for your smart phone you can always convert it to a wifi LAN camera using IP Webcam by Pavel Khlebovich and consume the output in VLC. I have been using an old phone for this purpose successfully for years.

I do appreciate stuff like that but I wish there were more alternatives, I don’t need a LAN camera! And I can’t think of much else I’d repurpose the hardware for either. I wish it were a lot easier to use phones as phones for a long time.
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