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Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by subjectsigma »

zmxz wrote: post #418
FredPret wrote: post #346

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You’re kidding right? Linux as a desktop OS is a dumpster fire in my experience. Many times I’ve had a system working for a couple of months, only to be laid low mysteriously by an update. This happened on everything from Ubuntu to Mint to Arch. The last straw for me (not stability related) was when I needed to scan something. Cue hours spent in the terminal… still no scanning. MacOS will keep working for years for m…

Why would the person be kidding? Why is it a dumpster fire in your experience? My work PC has the uptime of 3 months right now. I've been using this particular PC for 26 months, with Ubuntu installed. No crashes. No problems. No slowdowns. These testimonials where someone says "but it's " are difficult to relate with. I also scan and print from time to time, I'm not advanced user of scanners/printers - but after plug…

We must live in a different universe then. My Ubuntu desktop crashed three times in one day yesterday. I was trying to run a Windows-only application in WINE and for some reason all of GNOME crashes when I open a pulldown menu. I had to C-M-F1 and use systemctl to restart the window manager. Never did get it working.

If testimonials about Linux being unstable are hard to relate to, you are absolutely in the minority of computer users or you have not used Linux very long. I still remember the days where I had to (lightly) edit C source code to get my WiFi drivers working...

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by MikeKusold »

vimsee wrote: post #437
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #238

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NFS mounts are supported in macOS natively SSH mounts are done with osxfuse MTP support is also available: https://github.com/ganeshrvel/openmtp This article feels a bit like the author didn’t look very hard for solutions to a lot of their problems, but instead skipped straight to writing an article to complain about things they didn’t understand.

> NFS mounts are supported in macOS natively ..and MacOS lets you mount an nfs share ootb as a user. On linux you need an fstab entry for that though that is really not an issue at all. How you ask? You do this with the mac specific command: mount_nfs Here is how I use it to mount shares from my NAS. $ mount_nfs -o nolocks,nfsvers=3 /home/nas/myshares/nfs /Users/bob/nas/nfs

You don't need an fstab entry on linux. You can just use the `mount` command.

mount -t nfs ...

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by seba_dos1 »

NoThisIsMe wrote: post #411
warp wrote: post #398

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> It's installing a pkg file, takes about a minute and it is a one time operation you will never really need to do again. Typically I have to do it once a year, because the kernel extension seems to break with every new macOS version.

> Have you ever daily driven a linux box? Times have changed but you will jump through hoops far more often than on macOS. > - written from my frankenstein arch linux macbook pro That depends entirely on what you're doing, what software and hardware you're using. Any Linux distro on a MacBook (unless it's an old model)? Yeah, lots of hoops.

Use a properly supported hardware and the amount of hoops to jump through goes down to negligible.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by ars »

chrisseaton wrote: post #329
jason0597 wrote: post #317

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> In return you get stability Does that imply that Linux is not stable? I've had my Arch installation for a full year and it has never broken down on me. No package has ever broken, and updates are always smooth thanks to pacman. Meanwhile, I can recall a handful of instances where bugs slipped into the macOS userspace in the last year (and made it to the front page of Hacker News)

> Does that imply that Linux is not stable? I think I've almost never seen someone connect to a projector from Linux without some kind of glitch along the way.

I have to reboot my Mac machine every couple days because it forgets that the external monitor exists if you disconnect it and try to reconnect it.

My Linux machine on the other hand has never even once done that.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by seba_dos1 »

mvanbaak wrote: post #293
GlassKingdom wrote: post #258

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osxfuse is not a reasonable answer. The author says “without unsupported 3rd party tools”. I have severe problems with osxfuse on M1: janky behaviour and system crashes. This stuff should be native.

How many of the functionalities the author misses and doesn't want to install "unsupported 3rd party tools" are NOT 3rd party tools in ubuntu? Ubuntu linux is a distribution, and only a very very small set of tools and functionalities is "Ubuntu", all the others are simply packaged up 3rd party tools

> How many of the functionalities the author misses and doesn't want to install "unsupported 3rd party tools" are NOT 3rd party tools in ubuntu?

I don't think any are. From a quick glance, everything should be included in Ubuntu's officially supported "main" section.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by kergonath »

dotancohen wrote: post #339
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> No way to fullscreen a window without moving it into a separate workspace. One of the reasons why I almost never use the full screen feature. You can click on the full screen button on the too left-hand corner of each window whilst holding Option, I think that’s the closest you can do out-of-the box. You can assign a keyboard shortcut for this very easily (seriously, the way we can define keyboard shortcuts for alm…

What keyboard shortcuts are you missing in Linux? At least with KDE, I can go the entire day without touching the rodent. And on the rare occasions that I do use the mouse, I'm mostly touching it only for webpages that don't work with Tridactyl, or for highlight-middle-click copy-paste.

I miss the ability to set arbitrary shortcuts and bind them to arbitrary menu items. Also, shortcuts are not very consistent across Linux applications, compared to macOS, which is much more homogenous and less surprising. OTOH, that's not a deal breaker and I keep using both Linux and macOS daily.

macOS is frustrating to use without a mouse. On one side the shortcuts are consistent, work everywhere, and are very deeply customisable. Really much better than anything I have tried on other platforms. All the menus are very easy to use without a mouse once you know the shortcuts (which, granted, are not obvious if you don't know they exist). Emacs-like shortcuts in all text fields are absolutely fantastic. The fact that Command is used throughout the GUI leaves Control available for things like terminals, which is awesome (e.g. there is no conflict between Control-C to kill a process and Command-C to copy some text). But at the same time there are things like window management that pretty much require a mouse, but really should not.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by tristor »

2 of these 3 things, I have done multiple times on a Mac. Mounting NFS is natively supported in macOS and has been for nearly a decade. Mounting SSH is supported by 3rd-party tools, yes, but they're the same cross-platform 3rd-party tool you'd use in Linux... sshfs, which is built on top of FUSE, which is something you can install on a Mac and is not installed by default in most Linux distributions (although fair enough it's installed by default on Ubuntu).

The only thing I wasn't familiar with is MTP, which is apparently a Windows-specific protocol that Microsoft forced into the USB standard in later versions, and as far as I know across decades of using Linux, BSD, Windows, and macOS across multiple computers on the same network with shared peripherals I've never even used this protocol.

What's the complaint again?

OS choice is mostly a personal preference. As far as I am personally concerned, FreeBSD is the best OS possible to use, and macOS is second best. But I don't write blog posts telling people that their preference is incapable of doing things my preference is capable of doing, and if I were to do so, I'd at least do my research first to make sure it was correct.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by vorpalhex »

chrisseaton wrote: post #399
m3adow wrote: post #393

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Funny enough he's answering your complaints in the last paragraph. You're telling him he's "holding it wrong". Except individual taste can rarely be wrong.

Nobody said his taste was 'wrong'. I don't even know what that would mean? I'm saying he'd get more out the tool by learning and embracing the design of it, rather than wishing it was something that it isn't. Go with the flow, rather than fighting it. Reduce entropy not create it.

The maker controls the tools, the tools do not control the maker.

You're asking "but why not let the tail wag the dog?"

The tool works or it does not.

Re: Things I can’t do on macOS which I can do on Ubuntu (2020)

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Post by chrisseaton »

vorpalhex wrote: post #449
chrisseaton wrote: post #399

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Nobody said his taste was 'wrong'. I don't even know what that would mean? I'm saying he'd get more out the tool by learning and embracing the design of it, rather than wishing it was something that it isn't. Go with the flow, rather than fighting it. Reduce entropy not create it.

The maker controls the tools, the tools do not control the maker. You're asking "but why not let the tail wag the dog?" The tool works or it does not.

> The tool works or it does not.

That's the point. macOS works just fine without wobbly windows. We don't need the extra complexity of wobbly windows.

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