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Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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> we won't have a new browser from scratch any time soon What about Flow? It's a a clean-slate closed-source browser and engine, designed to make effective use of parallelism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(web_browser)

> closed-source Aaaand I'm out. Still not over Opera abandoning presto. With open source there's at least a chance it can be continued by someone else.

I would also prefer to see it be open source, but I think in this context that's not the point? My parent was saying that they do not expect to see new browsers from scratch, and this is one.

Aside: you could make the argument that both Chrome and Safari are only open source because they were not built from scratch.

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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Eh. People say "a new OS" when talking about a new Linux based distro. A new Chromium based browser is apt. I think the ship has sailed and we won't have a new browser from scratch any time soon. If two of the richest companies in the world can't do it ( Apple's Safari is always late with features, has significant bugs; MS abandoned their Edge), who could and why? What would be the value add over just using Chromium?…

>> It is the basis for Internet consumption, it shouldn't be in the hands of a single company. Somehow I agree with you but this is a slippery path. Should we do the same with x86 ISA? Should we do the same with Windows? YouTube? Where should we draw the line?

I know you weren’t asking me but

Yes

Yes

Yes

Infrastructure should as well not rest in the hands of a single company, so somewhere past that?

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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post #118

You launched a version of chrome, not a new web browser :/

Eh. People say "a new OS" when talking about a new Linux based distro. A new Chromium based browser is apt. I think the ship has sailed and we won't have a new browser from scratch any time soon. If two of the richest companies in the world can't do it ( Apple's Safari is always late with features, has significant bugs; MS abandoned their Edge), who could and why? What would be the value add over just using Chromium?…

> I think the ship has sailed and we won't have a new browser from scratch any time soon.

I think the big mistake is that we let the HTML spec get so complicated that it's essentially become Google's platform. Although it's technically open, it certainly looks and smells like a monopoly.

How do we fix it? Maybe someone could make alternate rendering engines that use Canvas and WASM?

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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Don't forget the boys at the Oxen network and their Session program. Phenomenal work, better than Tor

This looks really interesting. It looks like their lokinet uses an onion router though or am I misinterpreting the "better than Tor" here?

Isn't Loki the same cryptonote fork that forked signal to remove the phone requirement and then called it better than signal?

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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post #118

You launched a version of chrome, not a new web browser :/

Eh. People say "a new OS" when talking about a new Linux based distro. A new Chromium based browser is apt. I think the ship has sailed and we won't have a new browser from scratch any time soon. If two of the richest companies in the world can't do it ( Apple's Safari is always late with features, has significant bugs; MS abandoned their Edge), who could and why? What would be the value add over just using Chromium?…

You can get a bunch of new browsers from scratch. You just have to completely redefine what a browser is. Heh.

The issue is that "browser" now is code for a specific type of complex operating system that runs inside of another.

That should be split up again, and also reset to content-centric networking (such as IPFS).

- View information: just need something like markdown or RST. The Info browser

- Simple applications: web assembly with framebuffer, audio and mouse/keyboard input. Media browser

- Complex applications: Web assembly plus every device I can think of. Web assembly plus a flexible pluggable and granularly permissioned device driver system. Extended media browsers.

https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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post #118

You launched a version of chrome, not a new web browser :/

Edge is chrome.

Exactly… I see the point people are trying to make, but new browsers aren’t that interesting. New browser rendering engines are.

It great to have Edge, Brave and other, but they provide very little of interest.

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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post #122

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Eh. People say "a new OS" when talking about a new Linux based distro. A new Chromium based browser is apt. I think the ship has sailed and we won't have a new browser from scratch any time soon. If two of the richest companies in the world can't do it ( Apple's Safari is always late with features, has significant bugs; MS abandoned their Edge), who could and why? What would be the value add over just using Chromium?…

> I think the ship has sailed and we won't have a new browser from scratch any time soon. I think the big mistake is that we let the HTML spec get so complicated that it's essentially become Google's platform. Although it's technically open, it certainly looks and smells like a monopoly. How do we fix it? Maybe someone could make alternate rendering engines that use Canvas and WASM?

https://github.com/runvnc/tersenet

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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post #128

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26 days a go this topped HN: SerenityOS Browser now passes the Acid3 test ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30853392 ) That is a new browser from scratch, (well actually, it is a full OS from scratch). I got the impression this is developed by very few persons. So to answer your rhetorical questions: Q: who could? A: Andreas Kling, Linus Groh and Sam Atkins Q: why? A: Because they want to use it. "This is a syst…

Can you answer this question? > What would be the value add over just using Chromium?

There is inherent value in the Web being accessed a variety of clients, including a variety of rendering engines.
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