I'm wondering if there is a minimum book of analog electronics for embedded electronics (and especially the hacking of). I dabbed into a Tiva launchpad from last Dec to Feb and went through a beginner textbook, but put the project to suspend as I failed to bit bang a few peripherals so got discouraged. Nevertheless I noticed that I only need a minimum amount of analog electronics, basically: 1. Resistors (of course,…
There is: Horowitz celebrated "art of electronics" https://artofelectronics.net/
Electronics Explained: Fundamentals for engineers, technicians and makers (2018)
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Re: Electronics Explained: Fundamentals for engineers, technicians and makers (2018)
#42This is advice for hobbyists. Guys who want to tinker, wire their home, and fix their car, and maybe fix that broken radio. I have found most people are rusty when it comes to Electronics, and electricity. The Art of Electronics, and it's lab, is very long. I was shocked when I heard Harvard Students completed it in 1 semester. It's recommended here a lot though. There's nothing wrong with it other than being written…
AoE is at the level of "you might have to do just about anything with an op amp that's possible with an op amp, but you won't be designing op amps". Yeah, that's a little hardcore for hobbyists, but just about everything you might need is in there somewhere, or at least you'll learn what the thing you need is called.
Re: Electronics Explained: Fundamentals for engineers, technicians and makers (2018)
#43For anyone who really wants to get into electronics, skip this and go pick up anything written by Forrest Mims. Practically anything he's ever written is gold. And since they were so common there's a lot of them floating around used.
They have legendary status but they aren’t very good books. In some cases they are quite misleading. Unfortunately I don’t think there’s anything better out there yet at that level. I remember having to unlearn stuff when I progressed past the very limited explanations. Electronics as a subject is one of those things that’s really difficult to explain without a basic understanding of maths and he skirts well around t…
Re: Electronics Explained: Fundamentals for engineers, technicians and makers (2018)
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a real case where someone could go a whole career in EE knowing a ton about DRAM timings and nothing about pulling up FET switches to the proper voltage. I know - I've met them!
Real world effects of parasitics are underated. Found out the hard way that there's a whole lot of pain involved with hot plugging a battery into a board when there's a modular switch mode power supply onboard. Oh, you have a low esr ceramic cap on the input? Lol, the parasitic inductances of your wire and traces have formed a tank circuit and pushed the input voltage well above the unhappy voltage of something. K, y…
Lotsa surprise inductances out there. I've felt your pain re: inductance + input cap creating a resonant tank, too. That's a nasty surprise when you manage to create that resonance with your wiring.
Re: Electronics Explained: Fundamentals for engineers, technicians and makers (2018)
#45I find the problem with a lot of electronics books is that they are either too deep, or too shallow. Gerry Sussman (yes, that Sussman) explained that the way electronics is taught, and the way engineers think about problems are two separate things. So teaching material tends to fall into two camps: 1) detailed explanations that cover great depth, but are difficult to know how to apply to practical circuits, or 2) cir…
A fully qualified EE understands circuits at a deep mathematical level.
Analog circuit design is basically a variant of the same theory used to model masses/springs and various other equivalent systems. (Of which there are many.) It's based on diff eqs with various simplifications (specifically the s-plane transformation for simplified analysis and its z-plane equivalent for DSP.)
There are maybe a couple of hundred or so standard circuit configurations to learn with their associated models and properties. The rest can be worked out. But it's essentially undergrad calculus and numerical analysis applied to an unexpectedly large collection of standard configurations which were invented/characterised by researchers with PhDs, often quite some time ago.
There are also specialisms - digital, RF/uWave, component design, data compression and encoding - which have their own lore.
Electronics is cookbook-level circuit design using a small selection of the standard models described with simple pre-calculus algebraic descriptions. It's hugely simplified and watered down. You can get a long way with it, but it's more like LEGO in that you can clip circuits together with only a very superficial idea of how they work.
Anyone who says they can make electronic engineering simple is lying. It's a subset of applied physics, so it's not simple at all.
Cookbook level electronics can be as simple as you want, but doesn't provide a deep understanding of circuit design, or issues like noise, distortion, and RF/shielding problems, data encoding systems, and so on. If you want those you'll need the full course, and that's a lot of work.
Re: Electronics Explained: Fundamentals for engineers, technicians and makers (2018)
#46Ok found a PDF and scanned through it. This appears to be a rehash of older material, going back as far as the 90s, as I recognise some of the graphics and explanations. Newnes seem to make a great effort to retitle and reuse stuff in this capacity. It doesn’t look like a terrible book to be fair but limited in explanation and use. Worthy of the title perhaps. If I was at ground zero now I’d probably buy that, then d…
It depends what you want to do and at what level. There are many Makers in the world who don't have and don't need the AoE, it is a tome written a while back before lots of circuits came pre-packaged and which in many cases people don't care about how they work, as long as they just work. Remember back in the day, to make a high powered audio amp, you needed a tonne of components and now you can get a 150W amp on a c…
Are you talking about the 2nd edition (1989) or the updated 3rd edition (2015)?
Re: Electronics Explained: Fundamentals for engineers, technicians and makers (2018)
#47I find the problem with a lot of electronics books is that they are either too deep, or too shallow. Gerry Sussman (yes, that Sussman) explained that the way electronics is taught, and the way engineers think about problems are two separate things. So teaching material tends to fall into two camps: 1) detailed explanations that cover great depth, but are difficult to know how to apply to practical circuits, or 2) cir…
At university one of the mandatory courses was Computer Organisation, which teaches how computers are built electronically. Two weeks of that course covered DRAM timings. Recently (almost 15 years later) I was trying to design a simple automation system for my home's ventilation system, and for it I needed to pull my logic signal up to 10v using a FET. I had absolutely no idea how to do that. It's absolutely crazy th…
Re: Electronics Explained: Fundamentals for engineers, technicians and makers (2018)
#48One book I saw mentioned a lot in relation to learning electronics is this one: https://artofelectronics.net/ Reviews state it's basically an encyclopedia of knowledge.
I have the physical copy of the last edition. It is good. For total beginners it might be a notch to fast tho. The introduction has been rewritten completely from former editions as far as I can tell, and to my judgment has a better pacing and a friendlier tone. For those who already have a little bit of knowledge from tinkering around and seek to deepen their understanding it is definitly very much recommended.
Re: Electronics Explained: Fundamentals for engineers, technicians and makers (2018)
#49I find the problem with a lot of electronics books is that they are either too deep, or too shallow. Gerry Sussman (yes, that Sussman) explained that the way electronics is taught, and the way engineers think about problems are two separate things. So teaching material tends to fall into two camps: 1) detailed explanations that cover great depth, but are difficult to know how to apply to practical circuits, or 2) cir…
If you'd like to peak behind the epoxy curtain, or design ICs yourself... then you need to dive deeper.
Re: Electronics Explained: Fundamentals for engineers, technicians and makers (2018)
#50I'm wondering if there is a minimum book of analog electronics for embedded electronics (and especially the hacking of). I dabbed into a Tiva launchpad from last Dec to Feb and went through a beginner textbook, but put the project to suspend as I failed to bit bang a few peripherals so got discouraged. Nevertheless I noticed that I only need a minimum amount of analog electronics, basically: 1. Resistors (of course,…
Also a free one: https://www.analog.com/en/education/education-library/linear...