LineageOS 19

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Post by doener » Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 11:53 AM UTC

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by arbitrage » Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 12:27 PM UTC

LineageOS has reached some serious stability milestones IMHO. It's also so much easier to customise and get where I want it to be than any other custom Android ROM I've tried. Most of the bugs have been worked out by this point it feels like. Anyone looking for a new daily driver OS should give Lineage a try. I love it.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by epapsiou » Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 12:29 PM UTC

Have been on Cynogen/Lineage since 2012. Love the idea and the philosophy. Recently have been coming across safetynet issue. Will 19 address that? Also wondering what is the future of AOSP development, now that big companies are poaching developers (and effectively killing good projects like Magisk)

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by magicalhippo » Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 12:32 PM UTC

I installed LineageOS on my old Samsung Galaxy S3 back in the day. It's currently only used as a fancy alarm clock, I got an app that requires me to solve math problems to disable alarm.

Just yesterday I was wondering if it was still supported by LineageOS, and I see that it is not. What are the chances that a new version will work on this "ancient" device?

And even if I do, would it be safe enough to use or does the hardware have serious, unfixable flaws?

Got me thinking about the obsolescence of our modern gadgets.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by billsix » Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 12:33 PM UTC

I love Lineage and used it as my main phone OS but since my carrier required in February for VoLTE to work, I can’t receive or make phone calls anymore.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by woleium » Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 12:33 PM UTC

epapsiou wrote: post #3

Have been on Cynogen/Lineage since 2012. Love the idea and the philosophy. Recently have been coming across safetynet issue. Will 19 address that? Also wondering what is the future of AOSP development, now that big companies are poaching developers (and effectively killing good projects like Magisk)

There is a workaround for safetynet (so you can run banking apps and others that don't allow unlocked bootloader) but it's a bit of a cat and mouse game. be prepared to re-apply after each upgrade, which can be as often as every other week on the stable branch.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by tabiv » Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 12:35 PM UTC

It's nice to see that Lineage OS is still a prominent alternative OS. Back when I couldn't afford new smartphones, it would allow me to keep years old devices on relatively new software (these were the CyanogenMod days). Using it opened my eyes to tinkering and the possibility of a de-googled digital life. It's a shame that due to the ongoing 3G shutdown, people won't be able to keep old devices working.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by cowtools » Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 12:36 PM UTC

epapsiou wrote: post #3

Have been on Cynogen/Lineage since 2012. Love the idea and the philosophy. Recently have been coming across safetynet issue. Will 19 address that? Also wondering what is the future of AOSP development, now that big companies are poaching developers (and effectively killing good projects like Magisk)

Looks like there aren't going to do anything about safetynet: https://www.lineageos.org/Safetynet/

What's the future of AOSP? There are other distros like GrapheneOS and CalyxOS that take advantage of the open-ness of "google pixel" hardware. But I think the end goal is to replace android with a linux userspace like postmarketOS and containerizing android with Waydroid.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by qwerty456127 » Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 12:37 PM UTC

Is there a list of supported hardware models in conventional (non-codename) format? I am eager to find a model which isn't going to be expensive/rare (like Google Pixel) nor obsolete (pre-LTE). This is rather hard with the old LineageOS versions HCLs.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by karteum » Tue, Apr 26, 2022, 12:38 PM UTC

I wish that LineageOS could accept the "signature spoofing" patch that is needed for microg (possibly with a toggle switch that would be "off" by default), so that we could avoid the need for the less-frequently-updated https://lineage.microg.org/ and properly install apps from Play Store without the Google Service Framework (that essentially give root access to Google on your smartphone).

(and actually I also wish they could implement the shims developed by https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-google-play in order to sandbox the google play services, so that the user could choose between approach 1 (microg with signature spoofing) and approach 2 (sandboxed GSF) on any smartphone supported by LineageOS (grapheneos only supports Pixel phones due to their ability to relock the bootloader))