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Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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You launched a version of chrome, not a new web browser :/

Eh. People say "a new OS" when talking about a new Linux based distro. A new Chromium based browser is apt. I think the ship has sailed and we won't have a new browser from scratch any time soon. If two of the richest companies in the world can't do it ( Apple's Safari is always late with features, has significant bugs; MS abandoned their Edge), who could and why? What would be the value add over just using Chromium?…

>> It is the basis for Internet consumption, it shouldn't be in the hands of a single company.

Somehow I agree with you but this is a slippery path.

Should we do the same with x86 ISA?

Should we do the same with Windows?

YouTube?

Where should we draw the line?

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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post #122
post #118

You launched a version of chrome, not a new web browser :/

Eh. People say "a new OS" when talking about a new Linux based distro. A new Chromium based browser is apt. I think the ship has sailed and we won't have a new browser from scratch any time soon. If two of the richest companies in the world can't do it ( Apple's Safari is always late with features, has significant bugs; MS abandoned their Edge), who could and why? What would be the value add over just using Chromium?…

> Apple's Safari is always late with features, has significant bugs

While I agree on bugs, "late on features" is at least partly a lie. Features are pumped out by Chrome at a rate of ~400 new Web APIs per year [1]. And Chrome pretends they are standard even if often both Safari and Mozilla are against them (e.g., most hardware APIs, constructible stylesheets in their original form etc.)

[1] https://web-confluence.appspot.com/#!/confluence

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you answer this question? > What would be the value add over just using Chromium?

Not using Google is by itself value added.

Chromium is open source, not "Google", since all the bits that make it Google are in Chrome.

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

26 days a go this topped HN: SerenityOS Browser now passes the Acid3 test ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30853392 ) That is a new browser from scratch, (well actually, it is a full OS from scratch). I got the impression this is developed by very few persons. So to answer your rhetorical questions: Q: who could? A: Andreas Kling, Linus Groh and Sam Atkins Q: why? A: Because they want to use it. "This is a syst…

> Andreas Kling Mar 30 > There's still a long way to go before it's usable for daily browsing. For example we need to improve support for flexbox, grid and table layouts. Performance also needs work. > Our JavaScript engine is decently mature, test262 score tracked here: https://libjs.dev/test262/ In a few years when they have achieved feature parity with Chromium or at least Safari we can discuss this again, but for…

Keep raising that bar

Re: Show HN: We launched a new web browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you answer this question? > What would be the value add over just using Chromium?

Not using Google is by itself value added.

Not even the creators of the browser think that it is ready to use, inplying it is unusable. So it is immediately disqualified.

Like what the sibling comment said: [0] Until it has achieved feature parity with at least Safari, then you can talk about 'value' or realistically using this browser over a Chromium one.

I can use a Chromium-derived browser today like Brave or ungoogled-chromium and have no 'Google' in it. The SerenityOS browser doesn't even qualify to be compared with the rest on usability other than being 'built from scratch'.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31165497

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