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Re: The Machine Learning Job Market

#101
The post is not only too braggadocious for my taste, but some of the figures quoted are highly unlikely. I would personally not work for someone with this kind of ego, but there are many such people in positions of power.

This article is representative of an attitude I'm seeing around the tech industry, and if this is indeed the level of "confidence" in the Bay, I don't think that's a good sign.

Re: The Machine Learning Job Market

#102
post #12

I was expecting something along the lines of how AI/ML was considered a sexy career path, but there are very few jobs available and high competition for those jobs. So, as a result, you end up with the only available jobs as data engineering/ML ops/backend that supports ML teams. I am happy for this author and their success, but they clearly are not representative of the majority of the people in the ML job market.

I think I have a decent CV, with quite a bit of experience for a master's student. I have been searching for a job in MLE, for a bit now with very little to show for it, as I am either getting no responses, or responses claiming that they are looking for more experienced people, and particularly those that had experience with a particular stack. In all honesty, after 6 years of studying, with 4 of those years studyin…

I can only speak for Boston area, but I've been on teams who regularly welcome those with only 1-2 years of experience (even if it wasn't that relevant, as long as they had relevant schooling). I don't know if you consider that positive or negative evidence, but there it is.

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#103

> The most important deciding factor for me was whether the company has some kind of technological edge years ahead of its competitors. A friend on Google’s logging team tells me he’s not interested in smaller companies because they are so technologically far behind Google’s planetary-scale infra that they haven’t even begun to fathom the problems that Google is solving now, much less finish solving the problems that…

On the other hand, there’s a lot of real problems that real people actually deal with that just need a logistic regression to save million bucks here and there. I like that space more.

If you have a few minutes, can you list a few of these problems? Just curious here!

Re: The Machine Learning Job Market

#104

As a relatively unremarkable data scientist/machine learning engineer of about 5 years, I've been keeping an eye on DS/ML positions as they tend to give a sense on what is important to companies in that space, although I'm not actively looking for a new role. More and more positions seem to require Ph.D. credentials even for non-senior roles, even though modern DS/ML tooling doesn't require it. If I ever left my job…

Nah, you wouldn't have to quit. If you've got 5 years experience, even on non-cutting edge projects, the PhD won't matter. Sure, you won't be able to get any job you want, but there are lots of ML jobs that list a PhD requirement that will nevertheless jump at the chance to hire someone with practical experience.

Re: The Machine Learning Job Market

#105

"FAANG+similar : Low 7 figures compensation (staff level), technological lead on compute (~10 yr)" I don't know where OP is getting these figures from, but I doubt that FAANGs offer 7-figure comps to Staff-level people. It's probably more in the higher 6-figure level (400K - 600K).

Currently on the job market in the AI space in the Bay Area - 400k to 600k is senior level at FAANG + similar. Low 7 figures at staff wouldn't shock me (although I don't have any actual data on that)

Pay definitely doesn't increase by 600k+ as you go from senior to staff. Yikes. Are people larping on HN?

Re: The Machine Learning Job Market

#106
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if this person had been promoted to staff level in 2022, they could have changed their resume to "Staff Research Scientist, 2016-present" and that would be okay with you? Because it seems deliberately misleading to me. It's different if the level isn't represented in the title - if they went from one band to another but the title was the same, I don't see a problem with putting down something like "Software Engine…

In general, yes, I think that would be okay. I think it would be a mistake to create separate sections for each level. Overall your achievements within a single company should not be organized chronologically, but by what you want to show off. This may still be mostly chronological as you take on more responsibility/leadership. Now, I don't object to adding a line like: "promoted twice from Software Engineer 2 to Sta…

But it undeniably misleads the reader into thinking this person has held senior responsibilities since 2016, which is outright false, and may instill in the reader more confidence than is due.

Re: The Machine Learning Job Market

#107

"FAANG+similar : Low 7 figures compensation (staff level), technological lead on compute (~10 yr)" I don't know where OP is getting these figures from, but I doubt that FAANGs offer 7-figure comps to Staff-level people. It's probably more in the higher 6-figure level (400K - 600K).

600k is a senior engineers wage

No, it's not. If you get lucky with stock market movements, that might be your total annual comp, which is not your wage. I made close to what you're claiming at senior level, at the recent peak of stock market insanity, but I'd stick to the dictionary definition of "wage."

Re: The Machine Learning Job Market

#108

Off topic a bit - "Halodi Robotics (company he's joining) intends to produce thousands of humanoid robots by 2023" Are humanoid robots just around the corner? Musk claims Tesla will have a "prototype" humanoid robot this year. I dismissed that as Elon hype, but have I missed this coming?

The only thing you need for a humanoid robot is for it to be human shaped and have some electronics inside of it. Doesn't mean it has to even remotely be human in interaction.

Re: The Machine Learning Job Market

#109
post #69

Author is going to Halodi Robotics. I always thought that human shaped robots are a terrible form factor. Why limit yourself to the awkward design that 3.77 billion years of evolution accidentally landed on?

Perhaps because that form factor has heavily informed civilization's current challenges?

Re: The Machine Learning Job Market

#110
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- This really isn't representative of the ML job market because the author is such an outlier. - The fact that it isn't representative is what makes the article an interesting read. - The fact that they claim to have a plan for solving AGI in 20 years really detracts from their credibility.

As someone who is in a somewhat similar position as the author (looking for senior ML roles), I found this part enjoyable: > I’m not like one of those kids that gets into all the Ivy League schools at once and gets to pick whatever they want. Followed by "FAANG + similar" and a deluge of options. Also, I feel like their message is pretty liberal with using future projections and implying it to be the present. For ins…

FAANG staff in 5-6 years out of school is not impossible. I know a couple. They are significant outliers in terms of focus, dedication (i.e. hours worked), and raw intelligence. If I had to guess, I'd say 1 in 30 from the population of Google-level engineers.
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