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Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

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Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#282

How did it go from hostility to acceptance so quickly? I understand playing hard-ball to negotiate a higher price, BUT why play hard-ball and just accept the initial offer? Or is there something else at play (maybe expectation is that shareholders reject it?) and this is just a PR ploy.

possibly the actual financing details made the offer seem real, recent market downturn makes the value of twitter less, or they didn't get any other better offers.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

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post #4

For all the Free Speech posturing Musk has put out around twitter, it will be very interesting to see if @ElonsJet account gets banned.

I honestly don't believe he thinks that deeply about it and doesn't see any contradiction over what he says about free speech and how he acts. If it wasn't for the negative PR it would receive, he wouldn't think twice about booting the account. I don't think he realises that everyone has their own line at which point someone's "free speech" becomes unacceptable to them and that everyone has an idea on what the consequences should be for crossing that line. It's just "me and my pals are alright, we're harmless and shouldn't be cancelled but the guys I don't like can take a hike"

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#284

The ONLY way to solve the toxic nature of Twitter is to enforce a)a real name policy, and b)fully verified[1] identities for all users/bots (opt-in, where others by default filter out non-verified accounts in their feeds) Bots can continue to exist, but must be identifiable as such and connected to a verified real user. Not only will this clean up twitter dramatically, it will also push off those who wish to hide beh…

The trick is the trending algorithm. Not identities.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#285

The ONLY way to solve the toxic nature of Twitter is to enforce a)a real name policy, and b)fully verified[1] identities for all users/bots (opt-in, where others by default filter out non-verified accounts in their feeds) Bots can continue to exist, but must be identifiable as such and connected to a verified real user. Not only will this clean up twitter dramatically, it will also push off those who wish to hide beh…

I agree that a real name policy would help remove the bots and anonymous hate speech. But there is plenty of non-anonymous hate speech that still make Twitter toxic.

The ad-revenue model relies on attention, and attention thrives on memes that inspire outrage, contempt, and fear. The solution is a freemium subscription model. But I don't think he'll do that. I admire the guy's accomplishments like everyone else but we all know he's got a bit of an ego. He'll not put a paywall in front of his Twitter army.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#286

People act like this is some spiteful thing he's doing in order to just post edgy memes or have a 'private' social media for himself. Twitter, despite being a toxic place the majority of people avoid, brought in over 5 billion dollars last year. If elon removes bots, welcomes non-extremists back on, gets comedians and entertaining accounts back on board and lets people say what they want instead a bot army of shills…

Ads on Twitter have very low ROI. And that’s not because there are bots and toxicity, which certainly play a role, but mostly because there are no data points. Twitter doesn’t know its users, and thus can’t provide value to advertisers. I can’t see how Elon’s mindset would improve this.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#287

The ONLY way to solve the toxic nature of Twitter is to enforce a)a real name policy, and b)fully verified[1] identities for all users/bots (opt-in, where others by default filter out non-verified accounts in their feeds) Bots can continue to exist, but must be identifiable as such and connected to a verified real user. Not only will this clean up twitter dramatically, it will also push off those who wish to hide beh…

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Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#288

Whoever you are, whatever your politics and positions are, you have to admit and appreciate the humor in the saying: “it’s a private company, they can do what they want”. Full 180 and probably shouldn’t use an argument you don’t believe in to help make your point if you are on the receiving end of that joke. Just trying to enjoy the ride on by this one… I’m still much more concerned with the on-demand Ludovico Techni…

I don't think most of those people are saying Musk can't do this, just that it's going to make the whole site worse. There's a reason I prefer Twitter to 4chan.

They can do whatever they want with Twitter, but I don't have to use it. Which is exactly what everyone complaining about "censorship" on Twitter was told as well. If Musk wants to make Twitter more hospitable to trolls and harassers, then they're welcome to go annoy each other in their new paradise.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#289
post #147

Honest question, why can Elon, and only Elon solve the bot problem? Software devs have been trying to solve this problem since the beginning of the internet and yet bots still fill every space on the web.

I can think of couple of reasons:

1. as a public company, they are afraid to lose so many accounts - see Netflix as an example on what could happen to their stock

2. bots are the future, at some point I think everyone will have a bot to post for them

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#290

The ONLY way to solve the toxic nature of Twitter is to enforce a)a real name policy, and b)fully verified[1] identities for all users/bots (opt-in, where others by default filter out non-verified accounts in their feeds) Bots can continue to exist, but must be identifiable as such and connected to a verified real user. Not only will this clean up twitter dramatically, it will also push off those who wish to hide beh…

> The ONLY way to solve the toxic nature of Twitter is to enforce a)a real name policy

Nope that is not the only way. Federation can also solve moderation issue. Basically you host a server instance and set some ground rules of what is allowed and what is not. But federation cannot generate revenue so I don't think that will ever happen with Twitter unless Elon figures out how to make money from a federated social network.

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