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Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

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Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#141
post #6

Part of me hopes this is the end of the social media age. I've been on twitter since the very beginning and lately it feels like it's a toxic cesspool on all sides. I say this as a twitter addict and prolific poster over more than a decade.

> I've been on twitter since the very beginning and lately it feels like it's a toxic cesspool on all sides.

Now you know how the old school Useneters feel. Welcome to Eternal September.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#142
post #40

I feel like people have invested in Elon in large part because of his alignment with i) moving humanity away from fossil fuels and ii) making life multi planetary. He is obviously free to do as he pleases with this new wealth but I cant help but feel this as a huge redirection of resources (in terms of both capital and focus) from those goals

personally, i wish he would log out and focus on starship. Let me touch the third rail real fast, i felt the same way about Trump. Just logout of twitter and focus on the country.

I've said it before but Twitter is like a cancer, it begins to grow in some poor unfortunate souls irrespective of wealth, knowledge, or privilege, and slowly overtakes their whole being.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#143
post #89

Looking at the problems Twitter has, why does anyone think Musk can even solve one? If one believes Twitter has a free speech problem: Musk shouts about free speech but shut down Teslas PR department, lashes out against any criticism against him, canceled a preorder because he didn't like a journalists' article etc. Musk is great at self-promotion and this often helps his companies in some sense, but what else does h…

I don't think you should be looking at this as a "solution" to any problems other than this: Elon Musk has built his net worth of $250 billion by saying things to people, and his primary bullhorn has been Twitter. Spending $43 billion to secure his access to the engine that got him to $250 billion is reasonable. Combine that with the fact that he can now put his thumb on the scale and get his tweets in front of more eyeballs, and that may increase TSLA enough to offset the cost of buying Twitter.

As usual for Musk, this is a business decision that is meant to benefit him that he is trying to sell as benefitting other people.

Edit - Musk's other companies, SpaceX, Boring, and Tesla, rely heavily on government subsidies and contracts. The access he gets to politicians by controlling their newsfeeds on the social network they pay attention to is also very valuable. Not valuable for Twitter, valuable for Musk.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#144
post #40

I feel like people have invested in Elon in large part because of his alignment with i) moving humanity away from fossil fuels and ii) making life multi planetary. He is obviously free to do as he pleases with this new wealth but I cant help but feel this as a huge redirection of resources (in terms of both capital and focus) from those goals

This couldn't be further from the truth.

People invest with Elon because he has, objectively, an extraordinary track record of success.

  - SpaceX's market capitalization has surpassed $100 billion [1].
  - Tesla's market cap has topped $1 trillion, eclipsing the combined value of all other automakers [2].
  - Elon's latest venture, The Boring Company, is currently valued at $5.7 billion [3].
[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/08/elon-musks-spacex-valuation-...

[2] https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/tsla/key-statistics/

[3] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/21/elon-musks-boring-company-hi...

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#145

I'm confused about the series of events here. What happened to the poison pill?

The poison pill only takes effect during a hostile takeover.

Elon asked the board if he could buy Twitter. If the board were to say "no", the poison pill protects Twitter against Elon buying up all the shares in the open market anyway.

The board saying "yes" bypasses all that.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#146
post #89

Looking at the problems Twitter has, why does anyone think Musk can even solve one? If one believes Twitter has a free speech problem: Musk shouts about free speech but shut down Teslas PR department, lashes out against any criticism against him, canceled a preorder because he didn't like a journalists' article etc. Musk is great at self-promotion and this often helps his companies in some sense, but what else does h…

Agreed.

He cannot even solve moderation of racism in his own factory, let alone online.

I'll be ditching twitter completely. The whole thing rubs me up the wrong way in terms of what I want to associate myself with.

Facebook vibes.

Just another facebook run by another egotistic billionaire.

Not my cup of tea.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#148
post #89

Looking at the problems Twitter has, why does anyone think Musk can even solve one? If one believes Twitter has a free speech problem: Musk shouts about free speech but shut down Teslas PR department, lashes out against any criticism against him, canceled a preorder because he didn't like a journalists' article etc. Musk is great at self-promotion and this often helps his companies in some sense, but what else does h…

Not sure what is so hard about this.

The mission of Tesla is not free speech, but to accelerate the transition to sustainable energy. Tesla seems to be doing just fine without a PR department, so it seems he was right to shut it down.

The mission of SpaceX is to make life multi-planetary. So of course there is no right to free speech for the employees.

But the mission of twitter should be free speech within the bounds of the law, at least according to Elon.

Currently it seems to be to move the Overton window so much to the left that you can be banned for giving the definition of what a woman is that was commonly accepted by everybody in 2010.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#149
Don’t underestimate the power that Twitter confers on a private owner. It has become the de facto public square for the highest level politicians and executives. It is where embassies, CEOs and presidents publicly squabble. While Instagram and Tik Tok provide entertainment and distraction, the powerful influence the masses on Twitter.

When Trump was banned in Jan 2022, most of his 88 million followers never heard from him again. No matter your feelings or leanings, that’s a lot of power - to instantly mute a president.

This has nothing to do with turning Twitter around as a business.

It may have something to do with fostering freedom of expression globally.

It definitely confers a huge amount of power on the new owner and ensures no one can mute them.

Given the adversarial nature that Musk has with the current US administration, I expect an almost immediate regulatory action if this deal completes.

Re: Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources

#150

People act like this is some spiteful thing he's doing in order to just post edgy memes or have a 'private' social media for himself. Twitter, despite being a toxic place the majority of people avoid, brought in over 5 billion dollars last year. If elon removes bots, welcomes non-extremists back on, gets comedians and entertaining accounts back on board and lets people say what they want instead a bot army of shills…

The 4chan model didn't even work for 4chan, but I wish Twitter the best of luck should that be the new strategy.
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