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10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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Do Google use Google Drive on Linux internally? Isn't Linux used a lot there?

Not really. I mean, drive stuff is used here and there to share some docs/attachments, etc. but not via a mounted filesystem, just from web browser.

There's a Google-wide shared file system that is mounted on all gLinux workstations, but it has nothing to do with Google Drive.

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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I connected my Linux systems to my Nextcloud server, and then I connected my Gdrive as external storage in Nextcloud. When I turned on server side encryption in Nextcloud it also encrypted my connected storage of Gdrive. So I accomplished both Gdrive integration as well as file encryption at the same time.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but nextcloud constantly somehow manages to corrupt data it is storing locally. Its only user is an android backup agent. Is there something that's, say, 1% as complicated as nextcloud that can sync multiple devices without giving a cloud provider access to cleartext (while also keeping an encrypted backup in the cloud)?

Syncthing?

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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You nailed it. Every 3 years google renames and rebadges their chat system. I don't even know what to call it anymore.

I've posted this link before in comments, but for anyone who's not read this arstechnica piece it is well worth it: A decade and a half of instability: The history of Google messaging apps https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/a-decade-and-a-half-...

> A decade and a half of instability: The history of Google messaging apps

How do they keep failing over and over, in the same way, when these failures are a well-known embarrassment?

You'd think the CEO would either just ban development of new messaging apps or pick a winner and give it the same kind of care and feeding as GMail.

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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It's market share, but I suspect Google's numbers may be skewed here by their measurement system. They almost certainly have hard numbers on the percent of users accessing the UI via various platform configs, and the Linux numbers are low. Question is if that's because they haven't cracked into the market because they aren't offering desktop integration. The other interesting question is: what are Linux users using i…

My experience is that data-driven companies get into self-reinforcing circles: - Data shows not a lot of customers use Linux - Which leads to poor Linux support - Which leads to not a lot of customers using Linux That's not specific to this either. I've seen companies discount continents of people due to lack of customers on those continents, which was often due to inanely easy-to-solve problems. But if you only have…

Isn’t there some saying about analysts and how they often tell you what’s already the case, but almost never tell you what’s possible? I feel like that applies here.

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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Does anyone know why Linux/OSS devs haven't built this themselves yet? I am looking at the api and it seems to have all the necessary bits for filesystem syncing but maybe there's something I'm missing. https://developers.google.com/drive/api/guides/manage-upload...

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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post #146

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SMB3 is secure over the internet. But you really have to make sure it is an encrypted connection. In Samba you do this by adding: server min protocol = SMB3 smb encrypt = required to the [global] section of your smb.conf.

Honestly, I don’t mind a VPN moat on top of even that, but it’s definitely a good tip. Any unencrypted data over a VPN is a liability anyways. That said: for the moment, I still have some SMB1 clients inside my network. Yes, this is terrible, and frankly it is surprising Samba still supports it (I won’t be too surprised or too angry if it gets removed now that it’s separated out.) I should probably segregate SMB1 cli…

We just (a week or so ago) added the ability to remove it. You can now configure samba with:

--without-smb1-server

and the SMB1 code is no longer compiled into the binary :-).

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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post #85

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I'm pretty sure there was a Google+ chat, and who remembers Google Talk?

And Wave, whatever that was?

It was Slack/etc years before those existed. They just couldn't figure out how to market it because there were no reference points at the time, so few could see any reason to use it.

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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I've posted this link before in comments, but for anyone who's not read this arstechnica piece it is well worth it: A decade and a half of instability: The history of Google messaging apps https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/a-decade-and-a-half-...

> A decade and a half of instability: The history of Google messaging apps How do they keep failing over and over, in the same way, when these failures are a well-known embarrassment? You'd think the CEO would either just ban development of new messaging apps or pick a winner and give it the same kind of care and feeding as GMail.

I was completely fine with the old Hangouts thing. A small little call/chat system embedded into the inbox. Would occasionally ping friends and occasionally chat.

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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It feels like Google’s attention span, leadership longevity, and product development patience is roughly 3 years. Any product that survives longer than that probably has transcended beyond being a “pet project/toy” into a PR-problem or revenue-stream significant enough that it takes on a life of it’s own. As management turns over, that lease on life is renewed… https://killedbygoogle.com/ While this fosters new ideas…

“Show me the incentives and I will show you the outcome.” - Charlie Munger

This is probably the most insightful answer, the system is geared to rewarding creation of the next greatest technology. Sustaining what ever your predecessor did just doesn’t get prizes.
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