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10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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Post by jchw »

bpye wrote: post #57
jchw wrote: post #9

Times have changed in many more ways than one. These days I greatly prefer to own my data more directly, which I accomplish using a NAS. I don’t use Dropbox OR Google Drive, I use Syncthing, which can do stuff that neither of those could ever dream of in terms of syncing between machines. Not only do I not want Google Drive, I don’t even want anything like it. That said, I totally get why it’s still important. I do u…

I’m curious, what do you use to access files on your NAS? I’ve used Samba for forever but it’s always been kind of annoying to deal with permissions, and whilst running AD would probably solve that, I then have to deal with running AD. I’m tempted to try switching to NFS instead.

Samba. I tried AD very briefly before realizing how absolutely terrible of an idea it was. It just makes life so complicated, and AD integration was not as good as I was hoping. I can see why this market constantly has all kinds of crazy offerings…

As far as permissions go, I guess I am mostly ignoring granular permissions. I’m generally only concerned with permissions on a per-share basis. This way, file permissions mostly don’t matter and can be a one-and-done affair. Then, I can split files up into separate shares.

NFS also seemed appealing, but honestly it does seem to bring a lot of complexity that SMB/CIFS does not, and everything supports the latter well enough for my use cases.

Remote access is another issue, since you should probably not do SMB over the internet, but I guess that can be solved with Tailscale or ZeroTier.

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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Post by jeffbee »

Google Drive does support Linux with the completely open source DriveFS and supporting userspace services like Seneschal in the ChromiumOS project. People who claim otherwise don't believe in actual open source software development, they just want a convenient quasi-commercial software package that doesn't cost them anything.

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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Post by llanowarelves »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #37
mplewis wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because one would presume that a company building online file storage as a product would want it to work?

Quoted post unavailable.

It barely works.

Google Drive deletes files randomly (whether due to programmatic/storage problems or the documented issue with the algo not liking things and silently deleting them).

Missing block level sync reinforces that it's a toy. What would you do with 100+gb they tout if not having big media files? 10,000 spreadsheets (that might still randomly get deleted)?

I would be afraid to rely on it for business

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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Post by easrng »

fswd wrote: post #42
stephbu wrote: post #22

It feels like Google’s attention span, leadership longevity, and product development patience is roughly 3 years. Any product that survives longer than that probably has transcended beyond being a “pet project/toy” into a PR-problem or revenue-stream significant enough that it takes on a life of it’s own. As management turns over, that lease on life is renewed… https://killedbygoogle.com/ While this fosters new ideas…

You nailed it. Every 3 years google renames and rebadges their chat system. I don't even know what to call it anymore.

There's Google Chat, which is really made for companies but available on normal accounts too, and Google Messages, their SMS/MMS/RCS app for Android, which requires that you have an Android phone and a phone plan.

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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Post by CoastalCoder »

thrwyoilarticle wrote: post #60
CoastalCoder wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Because it's a paid service. But explaining the emotions you've projected upon OP isn't useful discussion.

From the OP:

> Just give us a web filesystem already. Stop with these shitty infantilized GUIs ... That actually worked ffs. ...

I responded by saying:

> Your level of angst makes me think ...

I suppose I could be wrong about the OP expressing angst, but I think it's reasonable inference.

Also, you wrote:

> Because it's a paid service.

I see two problems here:

(1) I was asking the OP (@titzer) what their reasons were, not yours.

(2) Only some people pay for Google Drive. One reason that I wrote:

> Your level of angst makes me think you believe someone out there is obligated to do this for you.

>

> If you believe that, I'm curious why.

was that if the @titzer was paying for Google Drive, I could see him having a stronger reason for expecting Google to make the product useful to him. But I didn't want to assume, which is why I asked.

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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Post by snvzz »

titzer wrote: post #29

Just give us a web filesystem already. Stop with these shitty infantilized GUIs with no hierarchical organization and an overreliance on search to find things. I have literally hundreds of thousands to millions of files on my local machines and have no trouble remembering where I put things. Drive can't seem to scale past a few dozen before it's confusing, useless, and apparently lossy. Remember when web servers woul…

Consider paying for S3.

Re: 10 years since Google said to “hang tight” about Linux support for Google Drive

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Post by charcircuit »

munchler wrote: post #3

Link to the Google product forum on the target page is broken, so this is not informative at all.

Yeah, I'm confused why no one else is discussing this. Who even said to hang tight? Was it someone on a Drive team? Was it a trusted community member? Was it just a optimistic Linux fanatic?

There is missing context.

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