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Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by erikpukinskis »

hkmurakami wrote: post #17
redthrowaway wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I couldn't agree more. Woz is a guy who will talk forever if you give him the right cues. STFU and get out of his way.

It was excruciating to listen to the interviewer's little interjections. These little affirmations are what you're supposedly "supposed to do" in conversation, but boy does it sound _awful_ for an interview. It was eye opening for me in this regard as well - know your setting.

I thought the questions were great, and I suspect you're being a little sexist and ageist. Sexist in that if Charlie Rose asked exactly the same questions with his Charlie Rose manner, you wouldn't be as upset, and ageist in that the interviewer was clearly quite young. Woz is a lifelong teacher, and is as dedicated to supporting young people learn as anyone, and you're here shitting on their work. She's not Oprah yet, because she's not 40 yet.

My hunch is that you are all objecting, in part, to the fact that a woman is interjecting and according to our cultural norms, women aren't supposed to do that. If a man was doing it, you'd care less. It's a hunch based on 30 years of listening to people, and I'm hopeful you or someone will take this suggestion seriously, although if history is any guide you'll interpret this as a personal attack, go into defense mode and deny any wrongdoing. Fun times.

Also worth noting is that neither TechCrunch nor C|net gave credit to this woman for doing the interview. That's great journalism there, fellas.

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

#23

Post by ebaysucks »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #21
hkmurakami wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was excruciating to listen to the interviewer's little interjections. These little affirmations are what you're supposedly "supposed to do" in conversation, but boy does it sound _awful_ for an interview. It was eye opening for me in this regard as well - know your setting.

I thought the questions were great, and I suspect you're being a little sexist and ageist. Sexist in that if Charlie Rose asked exactly the same questions with his Charlie Rose manner, you wouldn't be as upset, and ageist in that the interviewer was clearly quite young. Woz is a lifelong teacher, and is as dedicated to supporting young people learn as anyone, and you're here shitting on their work. She's not Oprah ye…

You scored a 2 out of 4 on the most common insults that are quickly losing their value: Racist, homophobe, sexist, ageist.

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

#25

Post by daimyoyo »

This is what scares me. Apple is going to become a "good enough" company. The fact is that no one at Apple is going to have both the vision to see what matters, and the clout within the company to actually affect change. As Woz said, the product line for the near future will be fine, but the true test will come when they have to come up with what's next.

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

#26

Post by maxarchbold »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #21
hkmurakami wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was excruciating to listen to the interviewer's little interjections. These little affirmations are what you're supposedly "supposed to do" in conversation, but boy does it sound _awful_ for an interview. It was eye opening for me in this regard as well - know your setting.

I thought the questions were great, and I suspect you're being a little sexist and ageist. Sexist in that if Charlie Rose asked exactly the same questions with his Charlie Rose manner, you wouldn't be as upset, and ageist in that the interviewer was clearly quite young. Woz is a lifelong teacher, and is as dedicated to supporting young people learn as anyone, and you're here shitting on their work. She's not Oprah ye…

I think your speculation is too contaminated with a certain view you think society as a whole has.. it's quite.. immature. Also, I'm hopeful you don't take this comment seriously, although if history is any guide, you'll interpret this as a personal attack, go into defense mode and deny and wrongdoing. Fun times.

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by thematt »

Somewhat off-topic, but in order for Woz to get an iPhone he has to stand in line at an Apple store? Am I understanding that right...or is it just for publicity sake? I would've thought he would have enough connections inside to get a phone long before launch day and certainly not through a retail store.

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

#28

Post by redthrowaway »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #21
hkmurakami wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was excruciating to listen to the interviewer's little interjections. These little affirmations are what you're supposedly "supposed to do" in conversation, but boy does it sound _awful_ for an interview. It was eye opening for me in this regard as well - know your setting.

I thought the questions were great, and I suspect you're being a little sexist and ageist. Sexist in that if Charlie Rose asked exactly the same questions with his Charlie Rose manner, you wouldn't be as upset, and ageist in that the interviewer was clearly quite young. Woz is a lifelong teacher, and is as dedicated to supporting young people learn as anyone, and you're here shitting on their work. She's not Oprah ye…

Sorry, you couldn't be further from the truth. I was objecting to her because she was bad, not because she's a young woman.

Also, as to the whole "taking it seriously" part: please don't confuse genuine disagreement (I think you're very, very wrong) with prejudice. I don't take your comment as a personal attack, but rather as grossly misguided. I'm not offended by the labels of sexism and ageism, principally because I think they have no merit.

There're plenty of young women who could have done a great job in this interview; she is not one of them.

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by erikpukinskis »

maxarchbold wrote: post #26
erikpukinskis wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the questions were great, and I suspect you're being a little sexist and ageist. Sexist in that if Charlie Rose asked exactly the same questions with his Charlie Rose manner, you wouldn't be as upset, and ageist in that the interviewer was clearly quite young. Woz is a lifelong teacher, and is as dedicated to supporting young people learn as anyone, and you're here shitting on their work. She's not Oprah ye…

I think your speculation is too contaminated with a certain view you think society as a whole has.. it's quite.. immature. Also, I'm hopeful you don't take this comment seriously, although if history is any guide, you'll interpret this as a personal attack, go into defense mode and deny and wrongdoing. Fun times.

No, I take it to heart. I can't really say any more than my suspicions. None of us will really know the truth. I'm happy with that. I just want to put my suspicions out there. Thanks for your thoughts.

Re: Woz on Apple: 'I'm a little afraid'

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Post by morrow »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #21
hkmurakami wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was excruciating to listen to the interviewer's little interjections. These little affirmations are what you're supposedly "supposed to do" in conversation, but boy does it sound _awful_ for an interview. It was eye opening for me in this regard as well - know your setting.

I thought the questions were great, and I suspect you're being a little sexist and ageist. Sexist in that if Charlie Rose asked exactly the same questions with his Charlie Rose manner, you wouldn't be as upset, and ageist in that the interviewer was clearly quite young. Woz is a lifelong teacher, and is as dedicated to supporting young people learn as anyone, and you're here shitting on their work. She's not Oprah ye…

For reference, Charlie did actually interview Woz here: http://www.charlierose.com/view/clip/11931
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