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Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by aendruk »

tomtheelder wrote: post #85
Workaccount2 wrote: post #81

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Long time Google fanboy here, and I'm honestly a hair's breadth away from buying an iphone 13. I have had nexus/pixels phones since the gnex. I have evangelized android to for almost as long. I did ground work for google by pushing people into google's services. I have a day 1 pixel 6 pro. I pay for cloud storage and yt premium. But to me google is just falling apart. I feel like they have lost their technology drive…

I switched recently, and honestly have found the experience on iPhone to broadly be worse. There are a few things that are a bit nicer, but the downgrade in the notifications system alone just tanks the experience. That said I switched for mostly privacy reasons, so won't be going back.

Similar. I miss Android for its technical features, but Google has turned the typical experience adversarial, like it’s all just an elaborate marketing vector. Apple’s ecosystem remains a proprietary dystopia, and its software is bafflingly inadequate for all the hype, but at least the business model is transparent.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by urthor »

Georgelemental wrote: post #92
hellisothers wrote: post #59

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What does having root on your phone improve for you?

I use a custom ROM on my Pixel phone to strip out all the user-hostile tracking. It works quite well honestly, no major usability sacrifices

Is this your custom ROM, or is it a widely known one?

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by kevan »

lumb63 wrote: post #7

I’m not surprised. I used Android devoutly, had a Galaxy S4, then an S8 when that started showing its age. I upgraded to an iPhone 12 when AT&T ran the promotion to get a free one. I wanted to keep liking Android. The amount of time I spent arguing vehemently that Android was superior made the switch hard, but several factors came into play for me: - Extremely slow and fragmented upgrade of OS. This resulted in subst…

Security patches stopping after 3 years made me switch. The phone (Pixel 2 XL) was perfectly fine performance-wise and still competitive with camera and screen quality but it wasn't safe to use anymore. I could've flashed a different OS but getting security at work to accept that to enable email and calendar access is unlikely.

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Post by howinteresting »

cookie_monsta wrote: post #425
howinteresting wrote: post #423

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It is OK to use multiple apps to chat with your friends.

Sure... until the day you want to set up a group chat

In this context it was just about having a group chat with your vacation friends.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by jl6 »

el-salvador wrote: post #302
jl6 wrote: post #249

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The two-phone solution seems to be giving way to BYOD. I haven’t carried a second device in years.

Our telco salespeople must be really happy for selling two phones to each of us here. How does it work in NDA'd work environments? Like when company's information can't leave company's devices? Is BYOD accepted in those cases? Like with MDM managed phone or workspace separation?

Microsoft 365 (e.g. the Outlook and Teams apps) has a bunch of certifications which seem to mollify some CSOs. In high security environments I would imagine work-issued phones are no better.

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Post by thorncorona »

chaosbutters314 wrote: post #208

love my pixel 3a xl. big screen, cheap, no stupid notch/hole punch, and runs great. I never understood what people have trouble with on Android. all my banking, chatting, food, and travel apps work fine. also, has a headphone jack and uses usb-c! my biggest complaint with smartphones these days is front facing camera makes no sense. put mini screen on back with back camera for selfies. if people want face unlock, a l…

i video call my friends on the go and use the front facing camera all the time.

video chat is an essential app on the phone

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Post by systemvoltage »

notatoad wrote: post #86
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #75

It's been mentioned before in other articles, but I don't think it can be understated how much iMessage makes it difficult to be the "odd man out" if you're on an Android phone. And it's not just about teenagers, and it's not about "green bubbles". I recently went on a vacation with friends, 4 other folks on iPhones and me on an Android. Our group chat experience almost made me consider getting an iPhone. The inabili…

As much as I hate promoting Facebook products, "let's make a WhatsApp group" seems to be the socially-acceptable solution to this. Everybody has it installed and always seems to be happy to switch communication over to it if somebody in the group suggests it.

WhatsApp is a fantastic app. Kudos to people that work on it and hold themselves up to high quality. It is smooth and had zero issues for using it over a decade.

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Post by grumpyprole »

tigershark wrote: post #377
grumpyprole wrote: post #37

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You must have installed some niche piece of software that the vast majority of iPhone users will never use or hear about. Hopefully the indie dev keeps updating it and Apple never pulls it from the store!

In what world VLC is “some niche piece of software that the vast majority of iPhone users will never use or hear about”? You REALLY never heard of VLC?

VLC and free open source software certainly won't offer "just works". If you are happy to go down this path, then Android will offer more free open source apps for you.

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Post by grumpyprole »

MBCook wrote: post #296
grumpyprole wrote: post #19

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But the iPhone only "just works" if you completely buy in to Apple's ecosystem. E.g. if you want to buy some FLAC music files from somewhere else, it won't "just work" anymore. Android is still the lesser of two evils in terms of allowing more choice on its platform.

> E.g. if you want to buy some FLAC music files from somewhere else, it won't "just work" anymore. The thing is nobody* does that. There are a few. That’s why I added the asterisk. But realistically very few people actually do it. Especially compared to the number of iPhones they sell every year. If you were using MP3 files, you wouldn’t have an issue. Or AAC. There might even be others. Apple really likes to make th…

> The thing is nobody* does that.

I find that hard to believe when so many music stores and labels (especially classical music and jazz) are selling FLAC downloads. It all works fine on Android with great polished and featureful apps like "USB Audio Player Pro".

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Post by SergeAx »

qsdf38100 wrote: post #360
SergeAx wrote: post #295

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So, you would never give up your contact list to one mega corp, but readily give it away to another. How do you made that decision? Asking not rhetorically and without sarcasm.

Huh? I didn’t give away my contact list. Neither to Facebook nor to Signal. As I said you can use Signal without allowing access to contacts. You can enter telephone numbers directly. Was I being unclear?

You gave your contacts either to Apple, or to Google, by using their OSes.
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