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Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by nneonneo »

SapporoChris wrote: post #347
technothrasher wrote: post #270

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I switched recently from years of Android usage simply because the car I wanted to buy only supported CarPlay. I could either give up Android or give up the car. I chose to keep the car. Now that I’ve had the iPhone a while, there seem to be about the same number of annoyances in iOS as there were with Android, they’re just different. I think I’d give the edge to Android, iOS is slightly more annoying, but not enough…

Do I understand correctly that your car determined your smartphone choice? Furthermore you considered changing your vehicle selection based on your current smartphone? I find the concept of a smartphone affecting a transportation decision or the reverse to be highly unusual. Can you please explain your rational? For example, do you spend excessive amount of time in your car? Do you do specific tasks from your car tha…

A car is both longer-lived and more expensive than a phone. It’s definitely not unthinkable to have that influence your choice of smartphone, especially since there might be many other more important factors that affect your choice of car.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by notatoad »

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #309
notatoad wrote: post #86

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As much as I hate promoting Facebook products, "let's make a WhatsApp group" seems to be the socially-acceptable solution to this. Everybody has it installed and always seems to be happy to switch communication over to it if somebody in the group suggests it.

WhatsApp? What is this, 2010? It's all about Discord now bb (who refused to be bought by Microsoft BD)

discord is great if i want to talk to weird gamer dudes. not so much if i want to talk to my mom.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by notatoad »

armadsen wrote: post #202
notatoad wrote: post #86

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As much as I hate promoting Facebook products, "let's make a WhatsApp group" seems to be the socially-acceptable solution to this. Everybody has it installed and always seems to be happy to switch communication over to it if somebody in the group suggests it.

I think this is only really true outside of the US. I only have WhatsApp installed because I've spent time outside the US (Africa, specifically) and it's defacto standard there. I literally never use it to talk to people in the US, nor do I know anyone else here who uses it.

for reference, i'm in canada.

SMS/iMessage is always everybody's first choice for communication here, i wouldn't say whatsapp is the dominant communication platform or used for in-country communication on a regular basis, but everybody seems to always have it installed or if they don't have it installed they know about it and are willing to install it.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by postalrat »

hunterb123 wrote: post #307
postalrat wrote: post #203

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They are both copying each other.

I don't think that was his point. Companies take features from competitors all the time. But even with that "feature sharing", Android's flagship phone still feels like more of a knockoff compared to any iPhone. Having owned every Pixel and the Nexus predecessors, they have about a 3 year lifespan, software is slow and freezes start after a few updates, the battery isn't great to start but shits out after year 2, the…

When your reviews are nothing by lies why should I believe anything else you said?

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by fencepost »

Narushia wrote: post #178
x0x0 wrote: post #91

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The security upgrades situation on Google is intolerable. I finally have a phone (3axl) that didn't die in a couple years from accidents / abuse / going to the gym in my pocket, and Google is eol-ing it because they've cut off security upgrades. My next phone will be an iphone.

I thought they had moved security updates to be delivered via Google Play so that users could keep receiving them even when the OEM doesn’t deliver OS updates anymore? Or are those separate security updates from the "normal" firmware security patches?

Some things moved into Google Play, which is a mixed blessing. On the upside, they may get updates longer. On the downside, there's an argument that moving things from AOSP into Google's proprietary blobs is not so great.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by fencepost »

ce4 wrote: post #106
lawl wrote: post #87

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A few example of the top of my head: - DriveDroid to boot a PC, I haven't used a USB stick to boot off in... years? - /etc/hosts - Viper4Android for system wide EQ - Messing with user hostile apps such a firefox when they disable your addons although they still work, proven by the fact that I was able to make them work again as root Edit: more things - Wireguard kernel module - Adding a CA to the trust store to MITM…

Ha, havent heard from that app in years! DriveDroid's file-backed USB-thumbdrive emulation is marvellous. Pick your .iso or whatever image, insert & boot your machines from it. No more searching for and fiddling with usb drives needed. It needs usb-gadget+mass storage module support in the Android kernel though. Miss it.

If you don't want to be leaving your phone plugged into PCs that you've booted, you might look into the "iodd" brand devices - either enclosures that you can put your own SSD into or the Mini series that comes with (I think) an mSATA drive already installed.

The Mini has a better screen for switching between ISOs and virtual disks.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by silverpepsi »

rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #384
sorenjan wrote: post #195

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Exactly. Years ago the number of apps in each app store was portrayed as "more is better" and a moat against new platforms. But realistically, how many apps does the average mobile user actually use, now that the novelty has worn off? I would guess that 75% of all users actually care about maybe 50 different apps combined, like Facebook, Netflix, WhatsApp, Spotify, etc.

It's been said many times that Microsoft could've won the mobile wars by simply taking a billion dollars, and paying the companies with the top 100 apps in the Apple app store to port their apps to Windows Mobile. That's $10 million each. Instead, they spent billions and billions of dollars trying to attract developers to their platform before eventually shuttering it. There was a phone with awesome hardware, an awes…

I agree with this so strongly I was about to write the same and have held the theory a long time. I wonder if there is a data set out there to show 95% of the world population has substantially similar apps installed and the ones they care about enough to consider a deal breaker are even fewer and less diverse. I don't think MS would even have had to spend that much.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

rejectfinite wrote: post #348
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #160

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I use an iPhone but I was surprised the OP mentioned price as a reason to switch.

I buy unlocked. I would rather have a 10/month phone bill than a 40-50 one.

I buy unlocked too. But you can get a decent Android phone that does all the major things for far less than an iPhone.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by redisman »

dopa42365 wrote: post #342
jmrm wrote: post #123

Today we can buy a really good (and small) iPhone from $430 with the same powerful SoC than the bigger ones and more years of updates, so more future-proof than a similar price Android phone. For markets outside the more expensive parts of the US, this is a big deal, because in a country where the monthly income excluding taxes is between $1500 and $2500 (like most of the UE countries), paying $1000 or more in a phon…

$430 is an insane amount to pay for a phone if you aren't in the global top 5% or so (which most people reading HN are, but it's not very representative).

I paid $190 for a refurbished 2020 SE with 100% health battery and no scratches. Still more expensive than cheapo androids but you can have affordable iPhones if you want to

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by redisman »

dlevine wrote: post #126

After suffering through the Blackberry Storm and then a few Motorola Phones with the Motoblur, I tried a Nexus 4. I liked stock Android a lot better, but a bunch of my friends and family were using iPhones, and I wanted iMessage. So I upgraded to a year-old iPhone 5, and have never looked back. It just worked better. Every app just worked, and the UI felt somehow smoother. I'm on an iPhone 11 right now.

I also was converted once Apple started to make the cheaper models. I was a android diehard from the original Galaxy until the iPhone 5c hit my price point. It just works and feels more cohesive and responsive.
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