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Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by jiggawatts »

kyrra wrote: post #108
x0x0 wrote: post #91

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The security upgrades situation on Google is intolerable. I finally have a phone (3axl) that didn't die in a couple years from accidents / abuse / going to the gym in my pocket, and Google is eol-ing it because they've cut off security upgrades. My next phone will be an iphone.

Googler opinions are my own. At least they fixed this with the pixel 6 with a 5 year upgrade plan.

I gave my 6-year old iPhone to elderly relatives and it still gets security upgrades.

Google “upgraded” to less than any other mainstream computing platform. Windows gets about 10 years of security updates for each major version, up to 15 if you pay extra.

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Post by howinteresting »

Kye wrote: post #269
howinteresting wrote: post #161

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You could just ask everyone to install Signal or even WhatsApp? They're friends of yours, so it seems like the least they can do for you.

Either you have especially pliant friends, or you've never tried to do this.

I guess "pliant" is one way to describe being generally open to new things.

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Post by modeless »

lumb63 wrote: post #7

I’m not surprised. I used Android devoutly, had a Galaxy S4, then an S8 when that started showing its age. I upgraded to an iPhone 12 when AT&T ran the promotion to get a free one. I wanted to keep liking Android. The amount of time I spent arguing vehemently that Android was superior made the switch hard, but several factors came into play for me: - Extremely slow and fragmented upgrade of OS. This resulted in subst…

Apple has fooled you. iMessage is not end-to-end encrypted as advertised. If you use iCloud backups then all your messages can be read by Apple and by extension law enforcement. If you decide not to use the only allowed cloud backup option for iPhones, then your messages can still be read by Apple on the other end when your friends have iCloud backups enabled. Apple has not end-to-end encrypted iCloud backups of iMessage at the explicit request of the FBI. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusiv...

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by philliphaydon »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #81
lumb63 wrote: post #7

I’m not surprised. I used Android devoutly, had a Galaxy S4, then an S8 when that started showing its age. I upgraded to an iPhone 12 when AT&T ran the promotion to get a free one. I wanted to keep liking Android. The amount of time I spent arguing vehemently that Android was superior made the switch hard, but several factors came into play for me: - Extremely slow and fragmented upgrade of OS. This resulted in subst…

Long time Google fanboy here, and I'm honestly a hair's breadth away from buying an iphone 13. I have had nexus/pixels phones since the gnex. I have evangelized android to for almost as long. I did ground work for google by pushing people into google's services. I have a day 1 pixel 6 pro. I pay for cloud storage and yt premium. But to me google is just falling apart. I feel like they have lost their technology drive…

I went round about a lot. Started with windows phone back when it had the honeycomb ui. Stuck with it until I moved to Singapore where Microsoft announced a new phone and didn’t release it anywhere except a few countries.

From there I went to iPhone 4 and had so many issues. So I went to the Note 4 and initially I loved it. But android got slower and slower so after 6 months I reset the phone and didn’t install anything. It got slower and slower and all I used was phone text and browser.

But I refused to go back to Apple.

I did a few hours of work for a friend fixing something and was complaining about my phone being slow so he bought me an iPhone 6 max as payment.

I was annoyed at first but it was so fast… and I’ve stuck with iPhone since and don’t regret it. Best thing ever moving over to iPhone.

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Post by HNHatesUsers »

modeless wrote: post #373
lumb63 wrote: post #7

I’m not surprised. I used Android devoutly, had a Galaxy S4, then an S8 when that started showing its age. I upgraded to an iPhone 12 when AT&T ran the promotion to get a free one. I wanted to keep liking Android. The amount of time I spent arguing vehemently that Android was superior made the switch hard, but several factors came into play for me: - Extremely slow and fragmented upgrade of OS. This resulted in subst…

Apple has fooled you. iMessage is not end-to-end encrypted as advertised. If you use iCloud backups then all your messages can be read by Apple and by extension law enforcement. If you decide not to use the only allowed cloud backup option for iPhones, then your messages can still be read by Apple on the other end when your friends have iCloud backups enabled. Apple has not end-to-end encrypted iCloud backups of iMes…

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Post by dboreham »

SapporoChris wrote: post #347
technothrasher wrote: post #270

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I switched recently from years of Android usage simply because the car I wanted to buy only supported CarPlay. I could either give up Android or give up the car. I chose to keep the car. Now that I’ve had the iPhone a while, there seem to be about the same number of annoyances in iOS as there were with Android, they’re just different. I think I’d give the edge to Android, iOS is slightly more annoying, but not enough…

Do I understand correctly that your car determined your smartphone choice? Furthermore you considered changing your vehicle selection based on your current smartphone? I find the concept of a smartphone affecting a transportation decision or the reverse to be highly unusual. Can you please explain your rational? For example, do you spend excessive amount of time in your car? Do you do specific tasks from your car tha…

Not parent, but nowadays the smartphone is the way to get decent information on the screen of your car. The built-in car infotainment/nav systems are all horrible. Voice recognition is terrible. Plug the phone in, and to a first approximation everything works. With wireless Car Play, you don't even need to plug in.

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Post by tigershark »

grumpyprole wrote: post #37
xvector wrote: post #23

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Not sure what you're talking about. I have zero issues using my FLAC files from elsewhere on my iPhone.

You must have installed some niche piece of software that the vast majority of iPhone users will never use or hear about. Hopefully the indie dev keeps updating it and Apple never pulls it from the store!

In what world VLC is “some niche piece of software that the vast majority of iPhone users will never use or hear about”? You REALLY never heard of VLC?

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Post by CameronNemo »

jet_32951 wrote: post #362
CameronNemo wrote: post #54

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Is it easy to buy a degoogled android phone? Aiui you need a google account to use the play store.

Any of several alternative OSs have small-to-no ties to Google, though Google is a heavyweight in the Android Open Source Project (AOSP). E.g. my phone runs GrapheneOS, and it is doing that while I am not logged in to a Google account, running any Google-branded software, or seeing any pings to the panoply of xxx.google.com sites. Check out CalyxOS or DivestOS as well.

Okay, but did you buy it like that or did you put in work to de-Google your phone? You mention GrapheneOS. Is your phone manufacturer Google? Do you run Google Play Services?

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Post by philliphaydon »

vidanay wrote: post #211
tomtheelder wrote: post #85

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I switched recently, and honestly have found the experience on iPhone to broadly be worse. There are a few things that are a bit nicer, but the downgrade in the notifications system alone just tanks the experience. That said I switched for mostly privacy reasons, so won't be going back.

I have a company issued iPhone, and the atrocious notification system is enough to assure I will not buy an iPhone personally. If notifications in iOS were ever completely overhauled to the Android model, I would probably jump ship.

Funny. Samsung notifications are a reason I will never buy a Samsung phone again. iOS notifications can be customised to suit my desire.

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Post by robertoandred »

deathanatos wrote: post #98
grumpyprole wrote: post #19

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But the iPhone only "just works" if you completely buy in to Apple's ecosystem. E.g. if you want to buy some FLAC music files from somewhere else, it won't "just work" anymore. Android is still the lesser of two evils in terms of allowing more choice on its platform.

The last time I had an iPhone (for work) it required an adapter to be able to connect to a MacBook Pro.

Any phone will need a cable to connect to a computer, unless it’s over Wi-Fi.
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