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Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by alimov »

marcosdumay wrote: post #237
vidanay wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a company issued iPhone, and the atrocious notification system is enough to assure I will not buy an iPhone personally. If notifications in iOS were ever completely overhauled to the Android model, I would probably jump ship.

Well, I don't really know the iOS system, but Android lets you authorize (or block) each different interface of notifications (like text, sounds, or appearing at the top) for each different application, and you can do that right from the notification itself. I imagine this is what the GP is talking about.

You can do all of this on iOS

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by jet_32951 »

CameronNemo wrote: post #54
QuikAccount wrote: post #48

I've been heavily considering getting an iPhone because of how terrible the Android experience but my problem with Apple is that you are either fully in their ecosystem of you aren't a worthy enough customer in their mind. I have no desire to use iCloud or Apple mail or have an AppleID. I just want a small phone that gets updates, has maps, and has a decent music app.

Is it easy to buy a degoogled android phone? Aiui you need a google account to use the play store.

Any of several alternative OSs have small-to-no ties to Google, though Google is a heavyweight in the Android Open Source Project (AOSP). E.g. my phone runs GrapheneOS, and it is doing that while I am not logged in to a Google account, running any Google-branded software, or seeing any pings to the panoply of xxx.google.com sites. Check out CalyxOS or DivestOS as well.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

danuker wrote: post #141
tomtheelder wrote: post #85

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I switched recently, and honestly have found the experience on iPhone to broadly be worse. There are a few things that are a bit nicer, but the downgrade in the notifications system alone just tanks the experience. That said I switched for mostly privacy reasons, so won't be going back.

How is a completely proprietary OS more private? I think LineageOS is the most private.

> LineageOS is the most private.

It was up until they took away the ability to fake app permissions.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by TingPing »

SergeAx wrote: post #291
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #75

It's been mentioned before in other articles, but I don't think it can be understated how much iMessage makes it difficult to be the "odd man out" if you're on an Android phone. And it's not just about teenagers, and it's not about "green bubbles". I recently went on a vacation with friends, 4 other folks on iPhones and me on an Android. Our group chat experience almost made me consider getting an iPhone. The inabili…

This is totally US problem. Any other country - no one even consider using proprietary OS chat app. Everyone uses either WhatsApp (Europe) or Telegram (exUSSR, Middle East).

These are just more proprietary apps. I think you mean cross-platform.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by CameronNemo »

xdennis wrote: post #324
CameronNemo wrote: post #60

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Performance, battery life, dependence on Google, inconsistent UIs from different manufacturers, bloatware from networks, networks control updates, most phones don't even get much in the way of updates.

> dependence on Google This is silly considering you can de-Google an Android phone. You can't de-Apple an Apple phone.

Few people go to the trouble of installing new images on any device they own. Android is quite the exception, not the rule.

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Post by kstrauser »

chillwaves wrote: post #27
xvector wrote: post #23

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Not sure what you're talking about. I have zero issues using my FLAC files from elsewhere on my iPhone.

Try using a custom ringtone that you do not purchase through the Apple store.

OK. https://www.wikihow.com/Set-a-Song-As-Your-Ringtone-on-iPhon...

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by Rufhfhs3747rhe7 »

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #309
notatoad wrote: post #86

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As much as I hate promoting Facebook products, "let's make a WhatsApp group" seems to be the socially-acceptable solution to this. Everybody has it installed and always seems to be happy to switch communication over to it if somebody in the group suggests it.

WhatsApp? What is this, 2010? It's all about Discord now bb (who refused to be bought by Microsoft BD)

Has Discord become the dominant platform for bilateral messaging anywhere? I've never heard it being used outside of crypto and gaming chat rooms.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by psyclobe »

I was a forever android man since the beginning, but now I'm rocking an iphone. Apple's ecosystem makes it so easy to stay in it. Want to upgrade from a 12 to a 13? No problem they took my old phone and gave me a whopping 700 bux for it which basically paid for the new one.

Oh and I can pick it up in 30 minutes locally.

Android cannot match this level of integration.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by HNHatesUsers »

psyclobe wrote: post #368

I was a forever android man since the beginning, but now I'm rocking an iphone. Apple's ecosystem makes it so easy to stay in it. Want to upgrade from a 12 to a 13? No problem they took my old phone and gave me a whopping 700 bux for it which basically paid for the new one. Oh and I can pick it up in 30 minutes locally. Android cannot match this level of integration.

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Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by jiggawatts »

vetinari wrote: post #239
mdoms wrote: post #150

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No. Google is the operating system vendor. They either fix this with all Android phones or they haven't fixed anything at all.

Google is not operating system vendor for all Android phones. They release a generic template, other vendors then apply platform kits for the SoCs they use and they release the operating system for their devices. Google has no idea what it runs on, or what is needed to make it run on specific devices. It is the vendor's task. Mobile devices have no UEFI, no bus enumeration, so the OS image has to be taylored for each…

That’s the cause of the problem, not the excuse for it.
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