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Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Huh? In what world can’t I use FLAC files on my iPhone? VLC does it great, I use them almost literally every day…

How do you even get the files on the iPhone? I see long blog posts discussing the steps needed for this. Not really "just works" is it?

You can download them from Safari and select 'VLC', for one...otherwise you can easily use Finder on Mac to just drag it over to the VLC documents folder on your iPhone - not sure about Windows.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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The manufacturers of flagship Android devices are a major cause of this.

I love being able to put an SD card in my phone to get a bit of extra storage, without paying Samsung the extra $200 to double the provided storage. In the S6 era, they removed the SD card, only for it to return (briefly) with the S7. Since the S20, it has once again been removed.

I will keep my S10 until it dies, but there is no point me 'upgrading' to a new phone that looses the headphone jack, and removes the SD slot.

I'm looking at the Sony Xperia 1 iii as a possible new phone, but it's a toss up between that and an iPhone.

Phone support is another issue. Three years, and your device will no longer receive Android updates. Apple is much better in this regard.

I used to update my phone every two years, religiously. Phones are now fast enough that it simply is not required. What do I get if I upgrade to the S22? 120hz refresh, a little better 3D graphics? I don't really game on my phone, so these things are not important to me.

Samsung's desire to just copy Apple means it's probably better to just go get the device they are copying.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Performance, battery life, dependence on Google, inconsistent UIs from different manufacturers, bloatware from networks, networks control updates, most phones don't even get much in the way of updates.

This is always interesting. I don't even buy phones anymore if they don't support Lineageos. It fixes all those issues. It still surprises me when I see stock Samsung devices and how utterly rubbish they are. And they are sold as premium flagship devices. The amount of bloat and garbage is incredible. waves fist at sky

Oh sure. All that was typed by a lineageos user. But such a small minority is likely to use that in the grand scheme. Hence why I thought it relevant to evaluate the "stock firmware".

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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What sucks about Android?

Performance, battery life, dependence on Google, inconsistent UIs from different manufacturers, bloatware from networks, networks control updates, most phones don't even get much in the way of updates.

> dependence on Google

This is silly considering you can de-Google an Android phone. You can't de-Apple an Apple phone.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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I switched recently, and honestly have found the experience on iPhone to broadly be worse. There are a few things that are a bit nicer, but the downgrade in the notifications system alone just tanks the experience. That said I switched for mostly privacy reasons, so won't be going back.

How is a completely proprietary OS more private? I think LineageOS is the most private.

I'm not really sure how the ownership model of the OS is relevant. That said, I agree that Lineage would be the choice where I have the most control, but it simply isn't practical for my personal needs.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Longtime devoted Nexus/Pixel user that started with the HTC Dream/Tmobile G1 as my first ever smartphone. I use an iphone SE (2020) now. I miss the palm sized computer that is an android phone and all its greater freedoms for sideloading, custom roms, etc.

But now I just want a stable quickly updated and patched phone I don't have to worry about. I want half a decade+ of updates.

Leaving the tinkering to the dirt cheap pinephone I have at home.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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I switched recently, and honestly have found the experience on iPhone to broadly be worse. There are a few things that are a bit nicer, but the downgrade in the notifications system alone just tanks the experience. That said I switched for mostly privacy reasons, so won't be going back.

How is a completely proprietary OS more private? I think LineageOS is the most private.

Google's whole thing is hoovering up all of your data. Apple at least has other priorities.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Apple’s support cycles must play a part? You can get a 6S or SE from 2016 that will run mostly fine still at an okay price. That’s without even mentioning the nightmare of trying to weigh up dozens of Android phones over multiple years, finding out which ones still work reliably several years down the line, etc.

In practice even though you don't get OS and then security updates anymore, the way Android works, relying on Play services and individual apps upgrades, means you can still use old Android phones for a very long time.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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I’m not surprised. I used Android devoutly, had a Galaxy S4, then an S8 when that started showing its age. I upgraded to an iPhone 12 when AT&T ran the promotion to get a free one. I wanted to keep liking Android. The amount of time I spent arguing vehemently that Android was superior made the switch hard, but several factors came into play for me: - Extremely slow and fragmented upgrade of OS. This resulted in subst…

Long time Google fanboy here, and I'm honestly a hair's breadth away from buying an iphone 13. I have had nexus/pixels phones since the gnex. I have evangelized android to for almost as long. I did ground work for google by pushing people into google's services. I have a day 1 pixel 6 pro. I pay for cloud storage and yt premium. But to me google is just falling apart. I feel like they have lost their technology drive…

After reading your comment, my first thought was to tell you to be more open to change. Seriously, it’s just a phone… just try it out :)

PS: I was the same as you (used Android, despised Apple) but eventually made the switch and never intend to go back.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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It's the truth. Go to Africa, go to South America, a bunch of places, people running businesses and whatnot off their phones. Hardly anyone uses iOS outside a few rich countries. Because most people use them to do stuff, so most open/ubiquitous (and yes cheap) wins. People somehow worried about an OS given away for free that is still the #1 OS of all user devices including desktops...

They use android because they can't afford iphones, not because "you can do more" with androids

You can do more with Android because you don't have to sell a liver to afford an Apple device.
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