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Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by fma »

jl6 wrote: post #135

What I find quite interesting amongst my colleagues is that they are deeply invested/locked into either the Google ecosystem or the Apple ecosystem. I know zero people who have recent experience of using both iOS and Android - they’re either in one camp or the other, and have only superficial knowledge of what it’s like to use the other. It feels like two parallel universes running side by side, just out of reach of…

I prefer my Samsung Android phone over an iPhone...but I have an iPad. I had an iPhone 2 generations ago.

My wife has an iPhone so I'm fairly in the loop on the pros/cons.

I also have some Android tablets laying around and know how poor they perform.

I wonder how much the pandemic has influenced these published numbers. I don't think they can differentiate someone download app from an iPhone vs iPad? All the remote learning has had students get tablets and I personally woulda have picked up an iPad...they do have the iPad pricing and features tailored with schools in mind.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by jeffbee »

jl6 wrote: post #135

What I find quite interesting amongst my colleagues is that they are deeply invested/locked into either the Google ecosystem or the Apple ecosystem. I know zero people who have recent experience of using both iOS and Android - they’re either in one camp or the other, and have only superficial knowledge of what it’s like to use the other. It feels like two parallel universes running side by side, just out of reach of…

I have a Pixel 3a and an iPhone SE both of which I use on the daily: the iPhone on my person and the Pixel installed in my car. I can confidently say that Android is written by a technologically inferior race of extraterrestrials who hate humans and want them to suffer. Sometimes it is so busy recompiling JAR files, or whatever the hell it is doing, that it fails to ring for incoming calls. It is 50/50 chance whether it will hook up to Android Auto by itself, or whether I'll have to unplug it and plug it back in. It gobbles so much power at idle that even if I switch it off the battery will be dead in a week. When I power cycle it, it's a solid 5 minutes before it is responsive.

I'm pretty sure what you say is true, but I think it only runs in one direction: Android users who are ignorant of iOS.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by rglullis »

fsflover wrote: post #251
rglullis wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider the Android distros that are free from Google services. I am on /e/OS which has an android base. Between its app store and F-Droid, you get almost everything you'd want from a mobile OS (minus games) without all the Google/Apple/Samsung crap.

> you get almost everything you'd want from a mobile OS (minus games) You forgot reasonable support time: Proprietary drivers prevent you from upgrading the Linux kernel, and the device becomes very insecure and outdated within few years.

No, I did not. I am running the Fairphone, which is guaranteed to be updated for 7 years.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by MBCook »

notreallyserio wrote: post #267
MBCook wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s up to the developer, the APIs have existed for 2ish years I think. I reply to texts and Slack messages through notifications. There are limits, but it’s not display only like it used to be.

I have yet to see a single interactive notification. What settings do you have to configure to get Slack to let you reply from a notification?

I believe you have to grab the notification and sort of “drag it down” to see the interactive part. It’s not shown by default.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by npteljes »

whiskyant wrote: post #215
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #75

It's been mentioned before in other articles, but I don't think it can be understated how much iMessage makes it difficult to be the "odd man out" if you're on an Android phone. And it's not just about teenagers, and it's not about "green bubbles". I recently went on a vacation with friends, 4 other folks on iPhones and me on an Android. Our group chat experience almost made me consider getting an iPhone. The inabili…

WhatsApp, Messenger, or even Instagram are all potential alternatives. All from the Facebook family.

I mean, every other IM software is an alternative. The point is that how do you get everyone on the same platform.

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Post by Andrex »

mdoms wrote: post #150
kyrra wrote: post #108

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Googler opinions are my own. At least they fixed this with the pixel 6 with a 5 year upgrade plan.

No. Google is the operating system vendor. They either fix this with all Android phones or they haven't fixed anything at all.

They've been at it for years, but it's been a difficult problem to solve. Tangible progress has been made in the last 2 or so OS updates, however.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/06/talkin-treble-how-an...

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/qualcomm-promises-th...

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/07/android-10-has-the-f...

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by scarface74 »

notreallyserio wrote: post #267
MBCook wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s up to the developer, the APIs have existed for 2ish years I think. I reply to texts and Slack messages through notifications. There are limits, but it’s not display only like it used to be.

I have yet to see a single interactive notification. What settings do you have to configure to get Slack to let you reply from a notification?

I just long pressed on a Slack notification and a “reply” text box appeared above the keyboard.

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Post by spixy »

selimthegrim wrote: post #113
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #16

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From my experience if you stay on the Google flagship/Pixel line then everything is great. Pretty much every other vender is garbage and will screw you and you'll have the experience you're talking about.

Thoughts on Sony?

software fine, hardware fine except camera quality and battery size, a bit expensive

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by SergeAx »

lawl wrote: post #12
lumb63 wrote: post #7

I’m not surprised. I used Android devoutly, had a Galaxy S4, then an S8 when that started showing its age. I upgraded to an iPhone 12 when AT&T ran the promotion to get a free one. I wanted to keep liking Android. The amount of time I spent arguing vehemently that Android was superior made the switch hard, but several factors came into play for me: - Extremely slow and fragmented upgrade of OS. This resulted in subst…

It's pick your poison. The only reason I'm still on android is because at least I can (still) have root there. I'm saying still because of safety net. But if apple let me have root, i'd probably prefer an Apple over Google. Mobile phones and their user hostility is a cancer. I'm seriously considering using a full GNU/Linux handheld for mobile things i can do in a browser, and keep an android phone for app garbage tha…

"If you don't have a root privilege on your device - this is not your device"

But even without root I can side load an app via APK on Android. This way my Telegram messenger almost always a version ahead Google Play.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by scarface74 »

fsa3d4uyuiy wrote: post #17
lumb63 wrote: post #7

I’m not surprised. I used Android devoutly, had a Galaxy S4, then an S8 when that started showing its age. I upgraded to an iPhone 12 when AT&T ran the promotion to get a free one. I wanted to keep liking Android. The amount of time I spent arguing vehemently that Android was superior made the switch hard, but several factors came into play for me: - Extremely slow and fragmented upgrade of OS. This resulted in subst…

Question about that: What I personally do most on my phone is browsing the web (when not at home, at home I can do that with a regular computer). On Android I can use Firefox with plugins to block ads, kill overlays, etc... and especially it has the reader mode AFAIK on iPhone you can only run one Apple-approved browser and all others are a skin around that, and it doesn't have plugins. To me browsing the web is unus…

Reader mode has been built into the iPhone version of Safari since 2010 and native support for third party “content blockers” since 2013.
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