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“Multiple personality disorder” probably doesn't exist
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#73It says I submitted this two hours ago but I summitted it 23 hours ago...
If you go to your profile page [0] it looks correct. I wonder if this is a way to hide submission information from the public/submitter, or some other kind of dark feature.
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#74https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrupulosity Reminds me of the discussions about young women presenting with tics clearly influenced by particular Tourette's influencers. A person would definitely not have had those symptoms in those ways if they weren't seeing that content ("fake" rather than simply innate), but can still be experiencing the root of it all as real compulsions and anxiety... but can then also seek attention w/r/t the whole thing, play up their experiences, etc. It's not actually useful to put "real" and "fake" binary labels on everything, because brains are complicated, society is complicated, and brains in society, well.
I am not an expert but have enough, uh, relevant medical histories in my life and my family that I feel pretty confident in the following: trying to draw a bright line between "serious and pathological" and "just get over yourself", whether in physical or mental health, is an exercise based in wanting to bestow or deny validation, not in pragmatic utility or fundamental nature. Debating how that line should be drawn is maybe helpful in terms of navigating US insurance billing, but rarely reflects Deep Essential Truth in the way people hope it will.
Staying flexible in your thinking is really useful to actually figuring out how to best treat yourself and others, especially where people tend to consider their loci of control way too far inside or outside themselves.
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#75> DID is often presented as a kind of get-of-accountability-free card, as someone who claims to have it can always say that past bad behavior was caused by another personality and is thus not their responsibility.
Isn't that basically mental illness in general?
> fabrications shaped by therapists who insist that traumatic events must have happened
It seems that the idea of trauma (especially childhood) itself remains highly controversial in psychiatry.
Why? There appears to be this nexus or intersection between personally responsibility in the legal/social context and our willingness to acknowledge the affects of trauma.
The connection between psychiatry and the demands of the legal system are probably underappreciated.
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#76I'm friends with someone who has clinical DID. It is, as near as I can tell, not induced by media, etc, but by extreme and profound trauma. > The people who have traditionally been treated for DID have suffered, greatly, and not in the cool arty time-to-dye-my-hair-again type of suffering common to social media performance, but actual, painful, pitiable suffering. Those patients who have been diagnosed in the past wi…
Yeah it's horrible. I have had contact with half a dozen people with severe DID because of extreme trauma experienced before the age of four. DeBoer is a great writer and he's dead right about the effects of social media on all this but he is completely wrong about the literature. The so-called Greenbaum Speech, alternatively called
"Hypnosis in MPD", is just one example of the consistent body of work out there showing that it is very real.
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#77Mildly interesting article until he starts whining about "lefties" and straw-manning what he thinks their reactions to all of this will be.
To which: No. Humoring people who make up mental disorders for social media clout is not "woke." "Woke" is being aware that people with mental disorders exist and that our society should be accepting and inclusive.
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#78When it all goes political at the end, what exactly does the author think happened in colleges. He uses the word 'woke' as if a horrible plague struck. Maybe, I'm just sheltered, and civilization did collapse at some point in the last decade, so can someone point to a summary of what people in his bubble think happened? > The specific way that lefties will dismiss this problem will be to say, hey, who cares, it’s jus…
HN just had an article on the front page yesterday talking about how Google Docs will now suggest you not use words like “motherboard” and “landlord”, and instead use more “inclusive” language. This stuff has literally gone from “it’s just college kids” to “it’s just Google”. And please, no “you can just build your own Google Docs” responses.
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#79Self-interpretations can't really be right or wrong. Science can't tell you how you should see yourself.
That said, there are self-interpretations that seem pretty self-destructive, and seeing yourself as having multiple identities seems like one.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eh, I understand the concern because it freaked me out (and sometimes still freaks me out) too. I keep a close eye on it. Thing is, mental illness is defined by a mental state that causes distress for oneself or the people around them, and I know there is disagreement about that. (Are homosexuals mentally ill? What about Christians?) I wouldn't recommend other people make one, but my tulpa has been really helpful for…
I'm not a mental health professional and I'm not even specifically going to advise against this or anything. I truly don't know enough to know whether it's inherently dangerous or just an extreme outlier on the continuum of human experiences of selfhood. But I have some experiences and observations that may be relevant that I'd like to share and maybe you can find something useful in them. I have, at this stage in my…
Yes, that is good advice.
I actually have told my friends and family about my experiments with tulpamancy. I told my parents a few months after my tulpa became 'vocal' and I warned my close friends before I started to keep an eye on me and let me know if I started acting delusional or my personality started to shift.