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Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by vmception »

freedomben wrote: post #89
vmception wrote: post #33

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> The impression I get is that every iPhone user has heard all the arguments before and understand the accuracy of those arguments and its the android users that lack the self awareness in that area and other areas of their life, This might be the most ironic comment I've read in a long time. 90%+ of users on both platforms are purely religious about their choice, and if there's one thing I can say that most of them…

yeah maybe.

In this case its just tech enthusiasts that fall for evangelizing the technical prowess while ignoring that the social aspect of a technically good-enough system is more important to people. tech enthusiasts do this in other areas of their life too. just a heavy correlation, which people experience nationwide.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by fsa3d4uyuiy »

finiteseries wrote: post #64
fsa3d4uyuiy wrote: post #45

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Does it also have extensions like redirect to old.reddit and such? If so, then it sounds like it would allow more user control than the latest versions of firefox of android, is this really true?

Yes https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oldr-redirect-for-reddit/id158... You can also have Reddit links opened automatically in eg Apollo.

Is it also possible to make and use your own plugins?

Also I'm a bit confused that browser plugins are apps. Are they actually running as individual apps, or part of the browser?

Can they get taken down?

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by goosedragons »

nextos wrote: post #50
lawl wrote: post #12

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It's pick your poison. The only reason I'm still on android is because at least I can (still) have root there. I'm saying still because of safety net. But if apple let me have root, i'd probably prefer an Apple over Google. Mobile phones and their user hostility is a cancer. I'm seriously considering using a full GNU/Linux handheld for mobile things i can do in a browser, and keep an android phone for app garbage tha…

Call me crazy, but I think there is room for a third platform. Especially if this platform was bootstrapped in a smart way, for example with an emulation layer to be able to run applications from Android. Or perhaps WebAssembly will make it viable to do more things from a (mobile) browser. I really miss the N700-N9 series with Maemo and Meego. It was so elegant and simple.

There doesn't seem to be. Hell BB10 was basically what you describe and IIRC had a layer to let let devs submit Android apps into the Blackberry World from day one. It wasn't enough and devs couldn't even be bothered to do that. Later they partnered with Amazon and added the Amazon App Store and let users add their own Android apps. Still wasn't enough. It was a great phone OS and hands down was the best at email/messaging. Maybe a true FOSS community effort could carve out more of niche with this though.

Even Microsoft couldn't make it work with barrels of cash. Granted they did make some huge mis-steps.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by pavlov »

I don’t think Apple would actually want to grow their global market share beyond 30% or so. It would start eating into the brand’s premium image, and more importantly, would invite more uncomfortable antitrust attention.

They’re really at a sweet spot here IMO in the mobile market: not too big, not too small (like the Mac used to be in 1995-2005). It’s better for the company if revenue growth comes from services, high-margin computers (like the Mac Studio) and new devices rather than selling more phones.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by ce4 »

lawl wrote: post #87
hellisothers wrote: post #59

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What does having root on your phone improve for you?

A few example of the top of my head: - DriveDroid to boot a PC, I haven't used a USB stick to boot off in... years? - /etc/hosts - Viper4Android for system wide EQ - Messing with user hostile apps such a firefox when they disable your addons although they still work, proven by the fact that I was able to make them work again as root Edit: more things - Wireguard kernel module - Adding a CA to the trust store to MITM…

Ha, havent heard from that app in years! DriveDroid's file-backed USB-thumbdrive emulation is marvellous. Pick your .iso or whatever image, insert & boot your machines from it. No more searching for and fiddling with usb drives needed. It needs usb-gadget+mass storage module support in the Android kernel though. Miss it.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by pavlov »

rmbyrro wrote: post #103

> iOS gained 6% between July 2018 and January 2022. From 19.4% then, Apple has grown its OS market share to 25.49% I wonder why is it so hard for people to differentiate 6% from 6 percentage points

This is why finance professionals tend to use basis points. You can’t mix up a 6% growth vs. an increase of 600 basis points.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by kyrra »

x0x0 wrote: post #91
Workaccount2 wrote: post #81

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Long time Google fanboy here, and I'm honestly a hair's breadth away from buying an iphone 13. I have had nexus/pixels phones since the gnex. I have evangelized android to for almost as long. I did ground work for google by pushing people into google's services. I have a day 1 pixel 6 pro. I pay for cloud storage and yt premium. But to me google is just falling apart. I feel like they have lost their technology drive…

The security upgrades situation on Google is intolerable. I finally have a phone (3axl) that didn't die in a couple years from accidents / abuse / going to the gym in my pocket, and Google is eol-ing it because they've cut off security upgrades. My next phone will be an iphone.

Googler opinions are my own.

At least they fixed this with the pixel 6 with a 5 year upgrade plan.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by shkkmo »

fsa3d4uyuiy wrote: post #49
kccqzy wrote: post #36

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Yes there's a reader mode built in to the browser. Ad blockers are available since 2015, although these are declarative ad blockers. Custom web extensions are also available more recently; these can actually run custom JS.

I'm not sure what the implications of "declarative ad blockers" are. Do you need to manually block them or something?

allow/deny lists rather than any sort of realtime dynamic filtering

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by kccqzy »

fsa3d4uyuiy wrote: post #49
kccqzy wrote: post #36

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Yes there's a reader mode built in to the browser. Ad blockers are available since 2015, although these are declarative ad blockers. Custom web extensions are also available more recently; these can actually run custom JS.

I'm not sure what the implications of "declarative ad blockers" are. Do you need to manually block them or something?

It means all ad blocking rules must be compiled and then sent to Safari. You can't, for example, execute some JavaScript to find out what elements to block. The format of these precompiled rules isn't as flexible as, say, uBlock Origin, but works well enough in practice.

https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Ge...

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