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Given the generally dire security of home routers (and understandably low security of most home networks/users) it feels a little like giving people far more power than most can safely wield.
Firstly … 25Gbit symmetrical … WOW. Secondly - as a person living my whole life in IT - both passion and professionally - I have no idea what would 25Gbit be good for. I’m currently paying about $80 for symmetrical 1Gbit fiber and have the option to upgrade to 5Gbit for about $180 but it seems so pointless. Here is the reasoning behind my grumpy opinion: 1. Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do i…
> Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do is to route 1Gbit. Having your uplink faster than all your individual ports in a network helps prevent any one port from being able to saturate your network. I work at an ISP that within the last year started selling 10Gbit symmetric, and we all sorta know there's not a huge use for it - yet. It's not really an issue for use to justify though, we don't char…
25Gb/s is just overkill for residential use. It's really cool that's it's available, but I fail to see a use case over my 500Mb/s home connection. Even for the servers that I manage and that are bandwidth-heavy, 10Gb/s is way overprovisioned for now. WiFi goes up to 1Gb/s, if you're lucky. Sure, some WiFi-6 APs have a 2.5Gb/s connector, but that's not what you want or need, unless you're a high-density enterprise. Wi…
The last time I thought I have not enough BW on my 50Mbps connection I learned what it's just my T440 is not enough to decode h265 extremely compressed stream over an SFTP streaming over WiFi, which gave around 20 Mbps at best. After toying|fighting around with wireless settings I found the main culprit was my Intel 7260 (or whatever) WNIC, not the CPU, Internet connection BW or the server throughput (10Gbit, despite being an IIS instance).
YMMV
Damn, that's impressive. Technically I could get 2Gbps with the two providers running their own fiber in the neighborhood. But I don't even fully use one gigabit connection, running a torrent client is about the only thing that can do it. Any ideas welcome :D Curious thing, the ISPs don't oversell even though they easily could. I get exactly what I pay for, speed is never below ~940Mbps (down or up), and uptime has b…
Yeah; there really aren't any great use cases I can think of for more than 1 gbps to the home at the moment. A 4k stream runs ~25 mbps, a 100 GB game download will tend to cap out before saturating the connection and still take ~15 minutes (hardly a wasted evening if you have to wait for it). At 2 Gbps, if you actually saturated the connection downloading something, you'd better have an SDD, since you'll be downloadi…
Back when covid19 started, we all went home, the office closed, and then we had a server failure. And I spent multiple days downloading stuff to back it up before reinstalling the machine, because there was not enough spare storage inside the office.
If you work with VM disk images even 1 Gbps starts feeling a tad sluggish.
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As a German I weep and cry. 25Gbit/s seems so so far off. And I live in a major city. I only get 150Mbit VDSL at the moment. I have no cable connection so one of these to get the theoretical 1Gbit/s download is out of the question.
Gigabit internet is quite widely available through different cable providers in Germany nowadays. Also the country side seems to be moving up, the very rural place where I grew up (and where my mom still lives) had a max of 2Mbps DSL for the last 20(!) years and now the whole area is being upgraded to fibre and will enjoy 10/1Gbps by the end of the year!
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> Being from a third world country, I completely agree with you on how technological investment can change lives. Being from a soon north korea 2.0 to be (russia,) I can say it was my surprise to see Internet being so bad across the developed countries when I was travelling in the previous decade. Canada - ridiculously expensive traffic, Germany - no comments, UK - sometimes good, sometimes 128kbps DSL, USA - 20mbps…
As a German I weep and cry. 25Gbit/s seems so so far off. And I live in a major city. I only get 150Mbit VDSL at the moment. I have no cable connection so one of these to get the theoretical 1Gbit/s download is out of the question.
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On point #1, you can probably do 10Gbps (assuming it's actually Cat5e), as long as it's under 50m or so. If it's just a run inside your house, it's likely well within range.
Yes, it’s 5E. I thought that cat5e maxes out at 2.5GBit. Honestly, none of my devices would benefit from 2.5Gbit in a significantly way. I run some cloud backups in the night and it’s ok if it takes extra 5 minutes.
Not convinced by the use case section. Very few servers will allow you a full 25gbit download, let alone anything more than a 1gbit (and often less). And if you own the server on the other end, that sort of bandwidth comes at a cost. I think beyond 1gbit, the benefit become super marginal and the hardware expensive.
The useful part is that if you download steam games and your PS5 is updating at the same time, your video call won’t even notice it. The realistic limits are per connection. But with 25Gbps you can just have multiple connections open without any of them ever affecting any other.
Realistically, this is pretty close to true with 2gbps symmetric, too. My provider seems to give me 2.2gbps in practice.
PS5 downloads/updates are 500-600mbps in practice. Steam is 1.5gbps or so. Most other things-- streaming, video calling, etc, are under 40mbps. So, you know-- if I kick off a PS5 download, and a steam update, and my kids are streaming and video calling... And my machines are backing up to the cloud at 1.5gbps (other direction)... and I decide to do a big apt-get update on a machine, maybe my steam update completes a couple seconds later.
Of course, I want even faster... but I'm hard pressed to say what would be better.
25Gb/s is just overkill for residential use. It's really cool that's it's available, but I fail to see a use case over my 500Mb/s home connection. Even for the servers that I manage and that are bandwidth-heavy, 10Gb/s is way overprovisioned for now. WiFi goes up to 1Gb/s, if you're lucky. Sure, some WiFi-6 APs have a 2.5Gb/s connector, but that's not what you want or need, unless you're a high-density enterprise. Wi…
25GB/s is overkill, and 640K ought to be enough for anyone. Those quotes age well.
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