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My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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I had 10gb internet on what was essentially a shared connection when I lived in Zürich. That, along with a surplus server I literally housed in my shoe closet, gave me the firepower I needed to prototype out something that led to two research grants which now employ myself and a new PhD student. We discount technological investments like this as being “too much” and “unpractical”, but we forget that, even if it only…

What did you do with 10Gb that you could not have done with 1Gb or 300Mbit?

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a metro area in the US and thousands of homes in my community do not have land-based broadband options. The US incumbents have totally failed and it isn't because there's a lot of desert in the West and Alaska. I'm sick of this argument which doesn't explain why city dwellers in most places in America have the worst internet in the developed world.

Yup, I live in San Francisco proper, and my only choice is Comcast cable. Looks like the current promo pricing for 1200Mbps is around $70/mo, but I can't quickly find what the normal price is. And I assume the uplink is something abysmal like 25Mbps. (I'm on Comcast's Business service, $250/mo for 1000/35 [long dumb story why]. Most of the time I see under 600 down when checking on speed test sites, and real-world sp…

I'm also in SF Bay Area and I just had 3 Gbps symmetric fiber installed by Comcast. This is their $299/mo "Gigabit Pro" option. I posted about it on Reddit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Comcast_Xfinity/comments/tkmv9y/upd...

There's a benchmark posted there showing that the speed is really as advertised.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #174

Firstly … 25Gbit symmetrical … WOW. Secondly - as a person living my whole life in IT - both passion and professionally - I have no idea what would 25Gbit be good for. I’m currently paying about $80 for symmetrical 1Gbit fiber and have the option to upgrade to 5Gbit for about $180 but it seems so pointless. Here is the reasoning behind my grumpy opinion: 1. Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do i…

25 users of 1Gbps service? Obviously, a simplification, but something along those lines is how they tend to be advertised

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #113

For me it was the 2ms ping that had me jealous. After maybe 200 mbs I would trade almost all bandwidth for more latency.

> I would trade almost all bandwidth for more latency. Well it's easy to get more latency ;)

Sorry. Better latency :)

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #229
post #112

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In what world is 10GbE only available for servers?

Without drowning in fan noise? This world... Sure, I guess you can get a Mac Studio, or some other 'workstation' class PC, but your switch will still need to be within a few meters of that endpoint, and it's not going to be very green nor silent. 2.5Gb/s can easily be done with a lot of laptops and workstations these days; 10 Gb/s isn't quite there yet (and 25, 40 and 100Gb/s are definitely in the server-only fiber-o…

Mikrotik makes a whole bunch of 10G hardware. The 8 port ones are fanless and have a heatsink on the back, and the 16 port model has a fan that only gets switched on when needed. I have one sitting behind me and it's been off all day.

It's also easy to open and replace the fan with something less noisy. Just remove a few screws, it's a standard size with a normal connector on it.

There's also big external heatsink so you could rig up a big, slow, fan to help it out a bit.

If you want to be green by the way, use fiber/DAC. The 10G copper SFP+ modules are power hungry, and Mikrotik recommends not placing them next to each other. Also the extra power draw is likely to result in fan use if you have a lot of them.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #174

Firstly … 25Gbit symmetrical … WOW. Secondly - as a person living my whole life in IT - both passion and professionally - I have no idea what would 25Gbit be good for. I’m currently paying about $80 for symmetrical 1Gbit fiber and have the option to upgrade to 5Gbit for about $180 but it seems so pointless. Here is the reasoning behind my grumpy opinion: 1. Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do i…

Getting 10G symmetrical May 1. I won't be able to use it all, though. Using a router that has a 10G port, but the stuff it does with packets means there's a limit I've heard of around 3G, but we'll see. Speed test is the first thing I'll be done once it's installed.

EDIT: USA, CA here. sonic.net. $40/mo with 3 free months. They'll pay up to $200 termination charges. Not affiliated with them.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #178

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On point #1, you can probably do 10Gbps (assuming it's actually Cat5e), as long as it's under 50m or so. If it's just a run inside your house, it's likely well within range.

Yep, you beat me to this comment. I ran cat 5e through my house in 2009 and didn't bother with cat 6 because no cable runs would be that long. I assumed there would be 10Gb consumer switches by now, but I haven't seen any yet.

There are consumer 10gbit switches now, though they are on the pricy side at around $400. I bought 3 of them for our datacenter and 2 of them broke within 2 years, so I definitely regret buying consumer grade for our operations but professional gear was ridiculously expensive then. Upgraded to ubiquity now, hopefully it's more reliable, though I guess it's on the prosumer side if you ask your average net admin.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #178
post #174

Firstly … 25Gbit symmetrical … WOW. Secondly - as a person living my whole life in IT - both passion and professionally - I have no idea what would 25Gbit be good for. I’m currently paying about $80 for symmetrical 1Gbit fiber and have the option to upgrade to 5Gbit for about $180 but it seems so pointless. Here is the reasoning behind my grumpy opinion: 1. Living in a home with Cat5 throughout so the best I can do i…

On point #1, you can probably do 10Gbps (assuming it's actually Cat5e), as long as it's under 50m or so. If it's just a run inside your house, it's likely well within range.

Yes, it’s 5E. I thought that cat5e maxes out at 2.5GBit. Honestly, none of my devices would benefit from 2.5Gbit in a significantly way. I run some cloud backups in the night and it’s ok if it takes extra 5 minutes.
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