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My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by rstat1 »

photochemsyn wrote: post #141
lazide wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn’t a ‘tax the 1%’ issue, it’s a corruption and market capture issue in the US that we refuse to acknowledge. Throwing more money at it usually makes that kind of problem WORSE not better.

FDR's Rural Electricity Cooperatives did a lot to electrify much of the midwest and rural south, along with the creation of the TVA. I doubt anyone would want to rely on the current major providers, Comcast etc., who have such a bad track record, to accomplish this. Municipal broadband sounds like a better option: > "The Rural Electrification Act of 1936, enacted on May 20, 1936, provided federal loans for the instal…

There are fair few places in the US where the local power company also owns a fiber network and provides (relatively speaking) super cheap gigabit or multi-gigabit internet service

However there are just as many places where the state's government was bought off to ban such networks because the majors are afraid of actual competition.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by imtringued »

shasts wrote: post #74

I fondly remember the days in 2010 in Zurich, and cablecom had good functional internet, don't remember the speed. Then I moved to Germany in 2013, and it surprised me that I can't have internet in my apartment for the next two months, because the technician appointment and when I finally received, I got a meagre DSL connection with bad ping and 32 Mbits. It has gotten better over the years, but even the best availab…

Germany is improving at exactly the rate it needs to. Yeah sure it's definitively behind but it's not stagnating like the US.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by sschueller »

101008 wrote: post #71
zhdc1 wrote: post #45

I had 10gb internet on what was essentially a shared connection when I lived in Zürich. That, along with a surplus server I literally housed in my shoe closet, gave me the firepower I needed to prototype out something that led to two research grants which now employ myself and a new PhD student. We discount technological investments like this as being “too much” and “unpractical”, but we forget that, even if it only…

Being from a third world country, I completely agree with you on how technological investment can change lives. Even a low speed connection in a rural zone can achieve wonderful things. But I really wonder what was your prototype that needed that speed connection and that wouldn't work with something slower. Can you share, at least vaguely, what was your work?

Technically Switzerland is a third world country according to the original definition.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by ornornor »

neitsab wrote: post #177
jonnylynchy wrote: post #7

On behalf of all tech-minded Americans, I would like to say... I hate you. I just got a notice in the mail that my ISP is "upgrading" their network so now I can pay $200 USD/month to get a whopping 2gbps, which I actually thought was pretty amazing until I read your post. So, thanks. In all seriousness, congrats! You made a good case for why one would need that much bandwidth. Also, we need to catch up here. :)

Reading this thread, I am reminded of how cheap telco prices are in France: e.g. in 2020, fibre internet plans averaged between €26 and €28.35 (USD 28-30 at current rates) per month.[0] Mobile plans are also on the cheap side, to the point of being competitive with many third world countries (for example, I wasn't that impressed with prices in Thailand in 2020 for comparable plans, only a 1-2€ difference with what I…

> enjoy the "European roaming data envelope"

Which provider would you recommend? I remember taking a look a while back and the most viable option was Free, but 15.99 EUR a month for when I need roaming 3–4 times a year seemed a bit excessive at 180.- per year.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by larusso »

baybal2 wrote: post #150
101008 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being from a third world country, I completely agree with you on how technological investment can change lives. Even a low speed connection in a rural zone can achieve wonderful things. But I really wonder what was your prototype that needed that speed connection and that wouldn't work with something slower. Can you share, at least vaguely, what was your work?

> Being from a third world country, I completely agree with you on how technological investment can change lives. Being from a soon north korea 2.0 to be (russia,) I can say it was my surprise to see Internet being so bad across the developed countries when I was travelling in the previous decade. Canada - ridiculously expensive traffic, Germany - no comments, UK - sometimes good, sometimes 128kbps DSL, USA - 20mbps…

As a German I weep and cry. 25Gbit/s seems so so far off. And I live in a major city. I only get 150Mbit VDSL at the moment. I have no cable connection so one of these to get the theoretical 1Gbit/s download is out of the question.

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Post by wara23arish »

loudthing wrote: post #169
101008 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being from a third world country, I completely agree with you on how technological investment can change lives. Even a low speed connection in a rural zone can achieve wonderful things. But I really wonder what was your prototype that needed that speed connection and that wouldn't work with something slower. Can you share, at least vaguely, what was your work?

I’ve never heard someone call their own country a “third world country”. Out of curiosity, which country are you referring to?

Grew up in a third world country (middle east)

That is the official terminology used in school books required by the official curriculum.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by sschueller »

mdb31 wrote: post #90

25Gb/s is just overkill for residential use. It's really cool that's it's available, but I fail to see a use case over my 500Mb/s home connection. Even for the servers that I manage and that are bandwidth-heavy, 10Gb/s is way overprovisioned for now. WiFi goes up to 1Gb/s, if you're lucky. Sure, some WiFi-6 APs have a 2.5Gb/s connector, but that's not what you want or need, unless you're a high-density enterprise. Wi…

The init7 CEO said they will offer 100gbit symmetrical in 2-3 years as the SFP modules become more mainstream.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by Someone1234 »

I'm in the US, and I could upgrade from 1 Gbps ($50/month) to 10 Gbps for $200/month. These are symmetrical speeds. That's because of fiber was built out as a community project, rather than waiting for the existing ISP duopoly (who were paid millions of dollars by the federal government, to do exactly this, but didn't).

The reason I haven't, isn't that more isn't better, it is that equipment costs and hassle to deliver 10 Gbps around the residence is a giant PITA as the article kind of demonstrates. If 2.5 Gbps ethernet equipment becomes more common and cost-effective, I'd definitely consider the 10 Gbps offering but until then, it isn't worth $1K or more to get prepared.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Post by gautamcgoel »

geoka9 wrote: post #130
Existenceblinks wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in a rural city in Thailand, fiber 2Gbps is $50 / mo. And this is just for normie. Like unimpressive.

I'm in a top 10 most expensive city in the world (Canada) and the best I can get for $50 is 80 Mbps (and even that is only available as a promotion that you can't get by simply going to the ISP's website and buying a plan).

Is this Toronto?
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