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Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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One of the books specifically cited is The 1619 Project, which if I am not mistaken was widely criticized even by professors for being a narrowsighted and completely ahistorical look at slavery in America.

That's not a reason for banning a book. Libraries are full of books that are completely ahistorical and narrowsighted. Just go look in the political opinion and analysis section.

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

#32

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> real banned books you almost certainly wouldn't find in a public library Do I dare ask what they are?

Two Hundred Years Together by Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Still waiting to hear Jordan Peterson’s review of that one.

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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> real banned books you almost certainly wouldn't find in a public library Do I dare ask what they are?

Two Hundred Years Together by Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Is it banned, or simply not available in typical public libraries because it's in Russian and there is not an English translation? My public library has dozens of books by Solzhenitsyn.

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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I thought Archive.org only stores public domain stuff. Libraries normally have both historic and modern books. For example, I see "Diary of a Wimpy Kid" on BPL's ebook list. But I can't find that book on Archive.org.

Archive.org has OpenLibrary.org as a sibling organisation. It's a "proper" library so you can check things out. I'm not sure exactly how it works, in legal terms, but it's great for obscure books. It also has Diary of a Wimpy Kid available to borrow digitally: https://openlibrary.org/works/OL8483260W/Diary_of_a_Wimpy_Ki...

Neat! I am not familiar with openlibrary.org. In any case that doesn't change my opinion that every US library making their ebooks available to anyone in the US would be making an excellent use of their funding.

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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I thought Archive.org only stores public domain stuff. Libraries normally have both historic and modern books. For example, I see "Diary of a Wimpy Kid" on BPL's ebook list. But I can't find that book on Archive.org.

Archive.org has OpenLibrary.org as a sibling organisation. It's a "proper" library so you can check things out. I'm not sure exactly how it works, in legal terms, but it's great for obscure books. It also has Diary of a Wimpy Kid available to borrow digitally: https://openlibrary.org/works/OL8483260W/Diary_of_a_Wimpy_Ki...

Wow, I did NOT know about OpenLibrary! Thx!

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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"Over 1,145 unique books were targeted between July and March, with 874 different authors, 198 illustrators, and 9 translators impacted. The index of the book challenges in this 8 month window include 1,586 book bans in 86 school districts in 26 states. These districts represent 2,899 schools with a combined enrollment of over 2 million students." "Texas led the country with the most bans at 713, followed by Pennsylv…

"Of mice and men," "to kill a mockingbird," "brave new world," "scary stories to tell in the dark," a scattering of biographies from Lucille Ball to Cesar Chavez. That's certainly a lot of cultural heritage to cast aside

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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> darn progressive > you're mad Ok, I think we should all keep cool around here. There are many examples of people who call themselves progressives "banning" books. In the sense of school boards removing books from the curriculum (which is part of what's happening in Texas), here's a recent example: [1]. Some go as far as literally burning books [2]. [1]: https://www.newsweek.com/schools-drop-kill-mockingbird-requi..…

For context, here is the relevant information from that first link:

"The Mukilteo School Board voted unanimously to remove the book from the required reading list on Monday evening, The Everett Herald reported.

The board's move does not ban the book from being taught, and it remains on the district-approved novel list."

Removing a book from a required reading list isn't even a little bit like banning it.

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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I like to use "The Turner Diaries" as a kind of litmus test for people who don't want to ban books. I notice that, while all of the books this article calls out specifically are available at the Brooklyn Public Library - per their online catalog, "The Turner Diaries" is not and neither are any books by its author - either his real name or pseudonym.

The Turner Diaries, for reference, is a white supremacist novel that is thought to have inspired the Oklahoma City Bombing. It's a pretty famously banned book.

The reason I like to use this as a litmus test is that people often say something like "I'm against banning books" but what they mean is "I am for things I like". That's not surprising, almost everyone is for things they like. If you were really against banning books then it's strange that you only take this position for literature you like.

I personally don't think The Turner Diaries should be made available to children and teens. I don't see what good that would do. But then, I also don't go around saying I'm against book banning. I think some books are appropriate for young people and some aren't and that we should ban the inappropriate books from contexts where young people would plausibly encounter them.

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

#40

Where banned=not paid for with public funds. Words have meanings. The books are still available, just not in schools.

Would it be correct to say they were banned from public libraries in those areas? And thus they were banned?
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