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My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #24

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Isn’t a lot of content like YouTube served from edge devices at your ISP, which is what you’re connected to at 25?

But what’s the value there? Even 4K high quality video is much less than 100mbps

Multiple 4K streams become possible. E.g. when the whole family comes over for the holiday we can all ignore eachother in favor of 4K video streams (which have better resolution, color, and cinematography than the real world ;) )

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t a lot of content like YouTube served from edge devices at your ISP, which is what you’re connected to at 25?

But what’s the value there? Even 4K high quality video is much less than 100mbps

No it isnt. A lot of movies have vbr, and at scenes where a lot is going on, bandwidth can go up to 150mbps.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #18
post #5

Not convinced by the use case section. Very few servers will allow you a full 25gbit download, let alone anything more than a 1gbit (and often less). And if you own the server on the other end, that sort of bandwidth comes at a cost. I think beyond 1gbit, the benefit become super marginal and the hardware expensive.

Even where the ports are available, 25 Gbit from a single address is well into the realms of looking like attack traffic in a wide variety of scenarios. Past even 500 Mbit I'm way more interested in latency considerations than raw bandwidth, and practical matters like how to use that bandwidth from my laptop (good luck doing 500 mbit wireless reliably, never mind 25 Gbit!)

I have a bandwidth in the low hundreds and it definitely feels excessive to me. But changing from wireless to wired and getting rid of those occasional latency spikes - very noticeable while playing games. A static ip is also something I would want.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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On behalf of all tech-minded Americans, I would like to say... I hate you. I just got a notice in the mail that my ISP is "upgrading" their network so now I can pay $200 USD/month to get a whopping 2gbps, which I actually thought was pretty amazing until I read your post. So, thanks. In all seriousness, congrats! You made a good case for why one would need that much bandwidth. Also, we need to catch up here. :)

With a best effort connection Id rather have a well oiled setup, without cgnat, a good cpe, sensible throttling etc and 100mbps than whatever huge amount of gbps.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #5

Not convinced by the use case section. Very few servers will allow you a full 25gbit download, let alone anything more than a 1gbit (and often less). And if you own the server on the other end, that sort of bandwidth comes at a cost. I think beyond 1gbit, the benefit become super marginal and the hardware expensive.

Your best bet on this is probably Google. I get full gigabit upload speed when uploading using Drive for Desktop (previously Drive File Stream).

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what’s the value there? Even 4K high quality video is much less than 100mbps

No it isnt. A lot of movies have vbr, and at scenes where a lot is going on, bandwidth can go up to 150mbps.

Well you could build up a buffer during the less intensive parts right?

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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post #45

I had 10gb internet on what was essentially a shared connection when I lived in Zürich. That, along with a surplus server I literally housed in my shoe closet, gave me the firepower I needed to prototype out something that led to two research grants which now employ myself and a new PhD student. We discount technological investments like this as being “too much” and “unpractical”, but we forget that, even if it only…

Please do tell us about your work!

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

#68
post #22

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I hate asymmetric connections. You get gigabit download but something stupid like 20-100 Mbps upload? Just why... Upload speed matters just as much as download these days.

In the case of older versions of DOCSIS (cable) [1] didn't allow as many upload slots as download slots. However DOCSIS 4 does allow such connections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Throughput

DOCSIS 3.1 can still use some improvements to eke out a lot more upload bandwidth too.

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

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USA requires more raw materials to provide services. United States is about 19 times bigger than Thailand. Thailand is approximately 513,120 sq km, while United States is approximately 9,833,517 sq km, making United States 1,816% larger than Thailand. And then there is the duopoly of ISPs where they carve out huge chunks and agree not to compete.

I live in a metro area in the US and thousands of homes in my community do not have land-based broadband options. The US incumbents have totally failed and it isn't because there's a lot of desert in the West and Alaska. I'm sick of this argument which doesn't explain why city dwellers in most places in America have the worst internet in the developed world.

I'm in Jersey City and have fios, 1gbit for $70 a month

Re: My upgrade to 25 Gbit/s Fiber To The Home

#70

On behalf of all tech-minded Americans, I would like to say... I hate you. I just got a notice in the mail that my ISP is "upgrading" their network so now I can pay $200 USD/month to get a whopping 2gbps, which I actually thought was pretty amazing until I read your post. So, thanks. In all seriousness, congrats! You made a good case for why one would need that much bandwidth. Also, we need to catch up here. :)

I get upgrade offers all the time.

But it doesn’t matter because it isn’t actually offered in my area / the local telco can’t even notify the right people…

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