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I'm really surprised at this take on this case. Depp is a terrible figurehead to choose for such a cause. I've never felt oppressed as a male so I can't really comment on the more general aspect of your view.

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Re: Snapchat’s product is booming

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Snapchat has been more proactive on fighting bot than other competitors. You can easily copy the cookie from instagram.com and write a bot with puppeteer. You cannot just sniff the traffic from Snapchat app and hope to write a bot with that. It has been aggressive at binary obfuscation for request signing, and cracking down the 3rd party mods (such as the Snapchat Phantom mod).

https://casper.io -> https://twitter.com/LiamCottle/status/1406616490783117322 > iPhone farm to generate security tokens to access @Snapchat private APIs (back in 2016)

Exactly. This is a never ending mouse-and-cat game. 2016 is when jailbreak mods still somewhat functional.

Re: Snapchat’s product is booming

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I'm really surprised at this take on this case. Depp is a terrible figurehead to choose for such a cause. I've never felt oppressed as a male so I can't really comment on the more general aspect of your view.

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1. He's a celebrity

2. He's extremely rich and clearly spoiled with household expenses exceeding 1m per month.

3. He has a career long history of infantile/destructive behavior - lots of which predates this case. I recall these reports from when I was a teen in the 1990s.

4. Culturally not a single thing he has worked on gives me the slightest interest in him.

If someone wanted to engage my sympathies they certainly would not make me identify with such a person.

As for the rest it sounds like an American problem so I'll leave that to the citizens of that great country to thrash out for themselves.

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What I don't get is why Snap never tried to build a good product around that and give creators (uhmm) a good way to monetize their profiles. This seems like such an obvious thing to do to me. Why would you give up on that usage and allow it to move to OnlyFans and other platforms if you already have it? And even more, penalize your audience for such practice. And same question to Instagram team (I left the company a…

Are there any good examples of product that maintains popularity within youth / teen markets while enabling monetisation of adult content? It seems near an impossibility. From a product perspective it would be possible, tho it’d be playing with fire. Very different when young people see adult content and you ban it vs they see the adult content you condone but you didn’t intend them to reach. (And they will try to).…

> Are there any good examples of product that maintains popularity within youth / teen markets while enabling monetisation of adult content?

The Internet.

Printed media.

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1. He's a celebrity 2. He's extremely rich and clearly spoiled with household expenses exceeding 1m per month. 3. He has a career long history of infantile/destructive behavior - lots of which predates this case. I recall these reports from when I was a teen in the 1990s. 4. Culturally not a single thing he has worked on gives me the slightest interest in him. If someone wanted to engage my sympathies they certainly…

Okay — but to American men this situation comes across as:

“Not even the fantastically wealthy Johnny Depp, who we grew up loving as Captain Jack, with all his wealth can defend himself against the false accusations of a clearly lying woman.”

Do you really not understand how that would be radicalizing for people who saw Pirates of the Caribbean as kids and who faced similar sexism in their personal lives?

To me, your position comes across as “I can’t personally relate to a victim, so I’m dismissing the concerns and experiences of an entire group.”

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1. He's a celebrity 2. He's extremely rich and clearly spoiled with household expenses exceeding 1m per month. 3. He has a career long history of infantile/destructive behavior - lots of which predates this case. I recall these reports from when I was a teen in the 1990s. 4. Culturally not a single thing he has worked on gives me the slightest interest in him. If someone wanted to engage my sympathies they certainly…

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1. He's a celebrity 2. He's extremely rich and clearly spoiled with household expenses exceeding 1m per month. 3. He has a career long history of infantile/destructive behavior - lots of which predates this case. I recall these reports from when I was a teen in the 1990s. 4. Culturally not a single thing he has worked on gives me the slightest interest in him. If someone wanted to engage my sympathies they certainly…

Okay — but to American men this situation comes across as: “Not even the fantastically wealthy Johnny Depp, who we grew up loving as Captain Jack, with all his wealth can defend himself against the false accusations of a clearly lying woman.” Do you really not understand how that would be radicalizing for people who saw Pirates of the Caribbean as kids and who faced similar sexism in their personal lives? To me, your…

> “Not even the fantastically wealthy Johnny Depp, who we grew up loving as Captain Jack, with all his wealth can defend himself against the false accusations of a clearly lying woman.”

Yes he is clearly an outlier and what he is experiencing should not be taken as indicative of anything other than the whims of celebrity culture. It has 0 bearing on what “regular” people will experience.

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Okay — but to American men this situation comes across as: “Not even the fantastically wealthy Johnny Depp, who we grew up loving as Captain Jack, with all his wealth can defend himself against the false accusations of a clearly lying woman.” Do you really not understand how that would be radicalizing for people who saw Pirates of the Caribbean as kids and who faced similar sexism in their personal lives? To me, your…

> “Not even the fantastically wealthy Johnny Depp, who we grew up loving as Captain Jack, with all his wealth can defend himself against the false accusations of a clearly lying woman.” Yes he is clearly an outlier and what he is experiencing should not be taken as indicative of anything other than the whims of celebrity culture. It has 0 bearing on what “regular” people will experience.

Except that this case is resonating precisely because those kinds of false accusations against men are used in divorce and family courts routinely. What happened to Johnny Depp happens to men in courtrooms across America every day.

This isn’t a case of “celebrity culture” — but rather, a case of the average American experience intruding on celebrity culture.

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Are there any good examples of product that maintains popularity within youth / teen markets while enabling monetisation of adult content? It seems near an impossibility. From a product perspective it would be possible, tho it’d be playing with fire. Very different when young people see adult content and you ban it vs they see the adult content you condone but you didn’t intend them to reach. (And they will try to).…

> Are there any good examples of product that maintains popularity within youth / teen markets while enabling monetisation of adult content? The Internet. Printed media.

I was thinking more specifically than those.

But to your point, google, ddg & reddit are examples that enable both adult and non-adult content to co-exist.

Reddit being a better example of a product that’s targeted to a younger demographic, tho far from exclusively.

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> “Not even the fantastically wealthy Johnny Depp, who we grew up loving as Captain Jack, with all his wealth can defend himself against the false accusations of a clearly lying woman.” Yes he is clearly an outlier and what he is experiencing should not be taken as indicative of anything other than the whims of celebrity culture. It has 0 bearing on what “regular” people will experience.

Except that this case is resonating precisely because those kinds of false accusations against men are used in divorce and family courts routinely. What happened to Johnny Depp happens to men in courtrooms across America every day. This isn’t a case of “celebrity culture” — but rather, a case of the average American experience intruding on celebrity culture.

It’s absolutely not representative of anything people face in divorce courts. This comment makes me believe you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Have you actually been in a divorce proceeding? Your case will get thrown out for lying.
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