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Regular blood donations can reduce “forever chemicals” in the bloodstream: study

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Post by arinlen »

kurupt213 wrote: post #123
hereme888 wrote: post #34

Sheesh, I can't believe the percent of negative comments! Someone finally figured a way to reduce PFAS. It's a hugely positive finding, especially in light of people being able to keep their red blood cells. Hopefully it can be ruled as a safe long-term solution for now. Looking forward to reading updates on this research. And btw, donating plasma doesn't mean other people will get your PFAS; many things can be done…

Regular plasma donation is probably much worse for your long term health than ppb levels of pfas.

> Regular plasma donation is probably much worse for your long term health than ppb levels of pfas.

You should in the very least read the summary. Even though the trial referred in the submission tracked regular plasma donations, the reduction of "forever chemicals" was not a function of how regular they were, only the volume of blood/plasma donated by the firefighters.

Also, I'd be surprised if the rate wasn't tied to the initial concentration, which would mean that increased rates lead to diminished returns.

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Post by wkrause »

neogodless wrote: post #9

Donate your perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) to those in need! Hmm: > As to the question of what happens to recipients of this blood: “Perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl substances are ubiquitous, and no threshold has been identified that poses an increased risk to recipients of donated blood components.”

It should be possible for some recipients to donate plasma after they recover. So if pfas levels are a real concern, there’s an easy solution for at least some of the recipients.

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Post by witheld »

hereme888 wrote: post #120
s0rce wrote: post #47

This is the first example of detoxifying your body might actually be real.

Detoxification/cleansing has always been real, in the alternative and conventional/allopathic medical worlds. I don't know any school of thought that denies the benefits of cleansing (within reason); only those who disagree on how to go about it.

Detoxification is not any part of “conventional medicine”, or, to give it appropriate weight “medicine”. It’s also not part of any “school of thought” that isn’t crackpot garbage (so called “alternative medicine”)

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Post by nswest23 »

hereme888 wrote: post #34

Sheesh, I can't believe the percent of negative comments! Someone finally figured a way to reduce PFAS. It's a hugely positive finding, especially in light of people being able to keep their red blood cells. Hopefully it can be ruled as a safe long-term solution for now. Looking forward to reading updates on this research. And btw, donating plasma doesn't mean other people will get your PFAS; many things can be done…

In the future going for regular blood filtering will be like going to the dentist.

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Post by KarlKemp »

chii wrote: post #185
KarlKemp wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are quite a few regular recipients of blood products, however. It's processed quite a bit (read: separated into its constituent parts and reassembled for what is needed, much like orange juice) which may already filter the stuff.

so why don't someone who is merely looking to reduce their own forever chemicals just extract their own blood, and purify using this same method, and inject it back in?

You can just bleed it off. Donating blood has for some time been considers healthy.

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Post by chii »

KarlKemp wrote: post #205
chii wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so why don't someone who is merely looking to reduce their own forever chemicals just extract their own blood, and purify using this same method, and inject it back in?

You can just bleed it off. Donating blood has for some time been considers healthy.

I don't know if blood letting has been proven to be healthy, at least not until this article's claims.

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Post by jandrese »

giantg2 wrote: post #163
jandrese wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you move away from the source of contamination you'll just replenish it with your blood. Given that these chemicals seem to be omnipresent in our environment you are probably out of luck.

Doesn't that negate the logic of the article?

The point of the article was to try to convince people to donate blood.

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Post by edmcnulty101 »

wirelesspotat wrote: post #101
edmcnulty101 wrote: post #92

Are there any blood test as a service sites? Where I can point and click order a blood test panel ?

In the USA, there's Private MD Labs, ULTA Labs, and Synergistic Labs[0]. In the UK, there's Medichecks and Thriva. I expect there are similar options in other countries. However, these general blood tests won't test for PFAS: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31125559 [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/bloodwork/list

Thank you for the info!

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Post by gremlinsinc »

mrtksn wrote: post #83
hereme888 wrote: post #34

Sheesh, I can't believe the percent of negative comments! Someone finally figured a way to reduce PFAS. It's a hugely positive finding, especially in light of people being able to keep their red blood cells. Hopefully it can be ruled as a safe long-term solution for now. Looking forward to reading updates on this research. And btw, donating plasma doesn't mean other people will get your PFAS; many things can be done…

I haven't heard of PFAS before but the findings kind of sounds straightforward? If something that can be synthesised by the body gets contaminated by external pollutants, it should get purer by removing part of the contaminated material since it's going to be replaced by newly synthesised supplies and result in dilution of the pollutant. In other words, dilution is solution of pollution[0] [0] https://www.youtube.com…

PFAS is teflon. If you ever cooked w/ teflon pans you probably ingested some PFAS directly from that. It's called 'forever chemicals' because it doesn't degrade, it's literally there forever (or nearly), very hard to get rid of.

There's a really good documentary called Dark Waters about a lawyer for the Chemical industry who switches sides after his home town has a lot of people get sick from Dupont poisoining people and he's been fighting a crusade against them ever since. It stars Anne Hathaway and Mark Ruffalo.

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Post by roywiggins »

dibujante wrote: post #151
roywiggins wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't preemptively test everyone for lead either!

This is true, although I would prefer to still test everyone for plausibly important things to feed data analysts who might eventually discover something useful.

That's a lot of blood draws to ask of people, for something that doesn't even have a hypothesis.

There are studies like the UK biobank that are trying to collect longitudinal information about a huge number of people, but they're volunteers.

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