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Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by DonHopkins »

xyzzy21 wrote: post #852
zmmmmm wrote: post #775

All the handwringing over Netflix subscriber loss seems to be overlooking the fact that they raised their prices - significantly. Of course they could lose subscribers from doing that. But 200k subscribers out of 150 million? Combined with the end of the pandemic and sky high inflation meaning many people have less opportunity to watch and less money to spend. The fact they raised their prices something like 20% and…

This is certainly part of it. There are also those who are not happy with woke content and "Anything Silicon Valley/Tech" and are walking away. Disney has the same thing going.

Racist homophobic bigots hate "woke" content, but so what? Who wants those snowflakes as customers anyway, who are so terrified of being exposed to cartoons of Mickey Mouse and Pluto having steamy hot gay sex? Let them try to cancel culture and walk away from scary cartoon animal sex all they want. How's Trump's "unwoke" social network working out?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/ted-cruz-mickey-plut...

>TED CRUZ WARNS DISNEY PROGRAMMING WILL SOON DEPICT MICKEY AND PLUTO F--KING

>The senator from Texas thinks the company’s opposition to Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” law means it’s going to introduce X-rated content featuring animated characters “going at it.”

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by edgyquant »

bobitsaboy wrote: post #855
zmmmmm wrote: post #775

All the handwringing over Netflix subscriber loss seems to be overlooking the fact that they raised their prices - significantly. Of course they could lose subscribers from doing that. But 200k subscribers out of 150 million? Combined with the end of the pandemic and sky high inflation meaning many people have less opportunity to watch and less money to spend. The fact they raised their prices something like 20% and…

Definitely a part of it for some. Me, I cancelled due to the low quality of their catalog. A decade or so ago, they had a really strong library of media. Now they don't. What they spend their money on, I find to be severely lacking.

Seems like most content is dubbed foreign stuff now days, which I’m not at all into watching. The only thing they have at the moment I watch is Ozark and that’s ending on the 29th.

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Post by edgyquant »

cmckn wrote: post #804
jurassic wrote: post #780

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I completely agree. I was only lightly using Netflix so when they last raised prices it was the push I needed to actually cancel. The recent content they've rolled out doesn't justify the heftier price tag compared to competitors. I love the UX of Netflix, but content rules and they're losing that battle. I don't even want to try new shows because of their reputation for cancelling things unceremoniously.

I think many single-season Netflix shows would have been movies 15 years ago. But many types of films just don't get made anymore, and many directors and performers would rather work on series. I’d still watch a show with one season, just like I’d watch a film without a sequel. I don’t tend to watch Netflix shows because they just aren’t that good.

I prefer the long form, it gives more time to flesh out the world and characters, but it has to be done right there shouldn’t be a minimum episode count on a streaming services. If you only have 6 episodes worth of story please don’t add 6 episodes worth of filler so you have 12.

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Post by maroonblazer »

edgyquant wrote: post #902
bobitsaboy wrote: post #855

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Definitely a part of it for some. Me, I cancelled due to the low quality of their catalog. A decade or so ago, they had a really strong library of media. Now they don't. What they spend their money on, I find to be severely lacking.

Seems like most content is dubbed foreign stuff now days, which I’m not at all into watching. The only thing they have at the moment I watch is Ozark and that’s ending on the 29th.

You're not interested because of the dubbing? Then just switch to subtitles. Or do you not have the patience to put up with subtitles?

Despite what Hollywood would have you believe, there's considerable high-quality content coming out of other countries. I love that Netflix brings that to the U.S., otherwise I'd never know of it or be able to watch it.

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Post by generalpf »

SturgeonsLaw wrote: post #847
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This seems like a way of sugar-coating the actual content strategy Netflix deploys, which has much more to do with product placement than it does content production. Their strategy is to align their content productions with the brands that best correlate with their subscriber base. In so doing, they can create lucrative deals with brands where their products are intricately woven into the stories/narratives of the sh…

I hope those advertisers feel like they got their money's worth, because I can't remember a single brand from Stranger Things

Dungeons & Dragons?!

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Post by DonHopkins »

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What people don't realize is that part of the pricing model for various physical media is that the media wouldn't last. VHS tapes, CDs, DVDs, etc all age, get lost, break, get scratches, whatever. They're not "forever". Now you can say "I can make a digital backup of my DVD". Depending on your jurisdiction you may have the rights to do that. But your own backup of that is unlikely to be durable. A cloud copy of somet…

I rely on the NSA for my forever backups.

Do you use FOIAFS to let the NSA do all of your archiving for you? Just post your digital content you want to save along with a unique token, then when you need a copy, FOIAFS automatically issues a FOIA request for all documents the government has with that unique token. It's kind of slow and unreliable, though.

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Post by vampiretooth1 »

Saw a comment on another Netflix post recently along the same lines as this article. It makes me think that the next logical step for Netflix is to move into a different type of media Ex: Spotify, music → podcasts. I think there's a lot of potential for Netflix to go into music, although smarter minds than me will have to figure out how to monetize in a way that makes any sense in a world where Spotify already exists.

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Post by Fomite »

scrollaway wrote: post #710
civilized wrote: post #267

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The recommendation system crash is coming. Name a recommendation system that shouldn't be replaced with simple rules based on obvious and transparent metrics like popularity and ratings, or by organizing things into categories. Less fancy ML nonsense, more working hard to gather high quality simple metrics.

YouTube has the best recommendation system in the world. Of course it gets lots of complaints. But the amount of fantastic content it has consistently recommended for me, including even pretty small channels, is incredible. A few points though: 1. I find YouTube to be good for general educational content. I don’t know if it’s as good for specific niches of entertainment. 2. It’s not just plug and play. You need to ac…

YouTube repeatedly tries to steer my recommendations from the content I'm watching (stuff on terrain making and miniature wargames) to decidedly alt-right content, to the point that at the moment, I mostly watch it logged out and directly searching for the channels I want to watch.

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Post by stone-monkey »

Natsu wrote: post #864
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Definitely a part of it for some. Me, I cancelled due to the low quality of their catalog. A decade or so ago, they had a really strong library of media. Now they don't. What they spend their money on, I find to be severely lacking.

All this makes me realize that we have Netflix and haven't really watched or enjoyed it since, I think, the Expanse. I guess we watched the Squid Game, too, but I thought that was terrible. Like a low grade ripoff of an old (and much more intelligent) manga called The Liar Game.

Ironic that you complain about Squid Game being a rip off of Liar Game, when it's also derivative of another series, Kaiji.

Reminds me of that classic Steve Jobs line where he complains about Bill Gates ripping off his idea of creating a GUI for OSes, with Bill pointing out that they were both really just ripping off Xerox.

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Post by jeffmc »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #92

Honestly for me I just do not know all the content Netflix has because the browsing is so bad. I wish instead of pushing shows to me best on algorithms, it would just let me browse categories and recent additions etc in a simpler way. Maybe categorised by year.

Here is a web page I put together a while ago that has categorized links to the Netflix category pages - https://ramadda.org/repository/a/browse_netflix

I forgot where I got the original list of links

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