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What chords do you need?

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Re: What chords do you need?

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IMO: It's much better to understand how to construct chords and then play music and memorize them by trying to play both the melody and some kind of accompaniment. You end up getting stuck in situations where you need to rearrange the chord or learn a new one and you can build them up that way without drilling.

I do know the basics of chord construction but it's still way easier to think through it on a piano because keys are all linear whereas with guitar strings you have to translate across strings with varying relationships. Not saying it's impossible it just takes more work to internalize that on guitar than piano. And I'm not there on guitar.

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Re: What chords do you need?

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Jazz sounds too complicated, but it is not. More than 90% of it is just a set of 2,5,1 sequences disguised in clever ways.

I agree with the sentiment but not the 90% figure here.

Again, it may not look like it, but if you analyze the chords and their substitutions, that's what you get. The genius of jazz is to make everything look more complicated than what it really is.

Re: What chords do you need?

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I find it hilarious that he concludes the Sergio Mendes recording is "the most complex pop song ever" rather than the obvious takeaway that when a song is simple enough, most of the specific notes being played aren't important. You could easily rearrange the song to be easier to play on guitar without losing "the song" (unless you're a music theorist and the ornamentation is "the song")

I don’t think that’s the obvious takeaway. The specific chord voicings are complicated, sure, but the complexity he’s talking about are the key changes and unexpected tonal choices. You can’t remove those without fundamentally changing the feeling of the song. When I was learning the guitar, I frequently would skip passing chords and simplify voicings I didn’t know how to play. As a result, my covers were pretty bori…

>or intentionally putting their own stylistic spin on it, not just skipping over stuff that’s hard.

Rick Beato interviews (acoustic guitarist) Tommy Emmanuel - https://youtu.be/PLIZZ9lIlwg

Re: What chords do you need?

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>they are each three major chords using the first, fourth, and fifth notes of the major scale I have no idea what any of this means (what is a chord? what is a major chord? what is a note? what is a first/fourth/fifth note? is there a 65th note? what is a scale? what is a major scale? what does it mean that a note is of a scale? what does it mean that a chord uses a note? is there a difference between a chord using a…

Music is easy.

3+3=5.

c to e is a third c1 d2 e3 e to g is a third e1 f2 g3 c to g is a fifth c1 d2 e3 f4 g5.

Re: What chords do you need?

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A note is something that gives the impression of being a single pitch (frequency). For example, what you get when you play a single key on the piano, or pluck a string on a stringed instrument. Many instruments can only play one note at a time: trumpet, flute, saxophone. The standard notes used in Western music and discussed in this piece differ in pitch by a factor of the 12th root of 2 (~1.06x). This means that if…

Thanks. That helps somewhat, though it is still crazy complex. But, why is the major scale 2212221? Is there a 1212122 scale (end every other possible combination)?

I'll try to explain why we choose those 7 notes out of 12. Note, that this is just my opinion and not a scientific and proven research.

According to observations by ancient Greeks, the sounds whose frequency have simple ratios of small natural numbers like 2/3 or 4/3 or 5/4 sound harmonically and pleasing together. Except for number 7 (I don't know why). So, if we take several such sounds we expect to get a nice sounding chord.

For example, in a C major chord (C + E + G) the frequencies ratio of E to C is 5/4, ratio of G to C is 3/2 and ratio of G to E is 6/5. So, if we denote frequency of C as 4f, then the frequencies of C, E, G are 4f, 5f and 6f. Those are indeed ratios of small numbers and notes in C major chord are considered in harmony with each other.

By the way, if we invert the chord as G, C, E we get ratios of 3f, 4f and 5f. These are the smallest numbers that we can use to build a 3-note chord. Does it mean that inverted C chord is the most perfect and sounds most harmonical? As a person without an ear for music I don't understand.

Because of this ancient people made scales that consisted of notes with good ratios. For example, if we take first 6 notes of a major scale (C, D, E, F, G, A), the frequencies would be f, 9/8f, 5/4f, 4/3f, 3/2f, 5/3f. Except for D, all of these are small numbers and if ancient Greeks were right, the song made from them should sound harmonical. D also has good ratios with some notes like G (D/G ratio is 3/4).

But this scale has a disadvantage, that one cannot easily raise or lower the pitch. Different people have different voice ranges, but if you have an instrument with these notes, you cannot change the key and transpose the melody. For example, if you had a sequence of C, D, F then you cannot pick higher or lower notes with same ratios.

That's why people invented an equally tempered scale. It turned out that if you divide an octave into 12 equally spaced notes, then 7 of them are pretty close to a traditional major scale. That's why it is 2212221 and not something else. With equally tempered scale one can transpose a song up or down easily, keeping the same ratios between notes.

By the way, note B seems to use different pitches in different scales. There is a space between frequencies of A and C, so there is a place for a note, but there is no simple ratio one could use for B and different scales used different pitches for the note.

You can read more about pitch ratios here [1].

While major chord sounds "most" harmonical, but there are only 3 major chords in a major scale, and the music tends to be boring if it uses only perfect ratios. I guess that's why musicians started to use more and more "imperfect" chords over time. For example, in a minor chord like A, C, E ratios are 10f:12f:15f. And indeed a minor chord sounds like a wrong version of a major chord. If we take a chord with 7th, the ratios get even worse, and some musicians use chords with notes that do not belong to a normal chord, or even do not belong to the key.

By the way, non-harmonical notes are ones that differ only by a half tone - for example, E and F (ratio is 16:15) or three tones (ratio is 36:25).

[1] http://www.swarthmore.edu/NatSci/ceverba1/Class/e5_2006/Musi...

Re: What chords do you need?

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Interesting how rare the minor iv chord is. Offhand I can think of only 2: Creep by Radiohead and Space Oddity by David Bowie.

Also In My Life, I Call Your Name, You Won’t See Me, When I’m 64, Across The Universe, If I Fell, Blackbird, and Hello Goodbye

yeah the beatles loved that one

Re: What chords do you need?

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Re: What chords do you need?

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Interesting how rare the minor iv chord is. Offhand I can think of only 2: Creep by Radiohead and Space Oddity by David Bowie.

Also In My Life, I Call Your Name, You Won’t See Me, When I’m 64, Across The Universe, If I Fell, Blackbird, and Hello Goodbye yeah the beatles loved that one

Ha I’m humming each of these to myself, and you’re right!

Re: What chords do you need?

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Interesting how rare the minor iv chord is. Offhand I can think of only 2: Creep by Radiohead and Space Oddity by David Bowie.

It's also used in Hotel California. Maybe it doesn't show up much in pop/rock/country, but it's not uncommon in jazz.

Hmm I don’t hear it, where? I hear:

vi III V II IV I ii III

And the chorus

IV I V vi IV I ii III

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