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Re: Ask HN: Are there any rural tech communities?

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You might have luck in any one of a number of university towns.

This. Every one of the 50 states has a flagship university, and some of them are doing very good research in a variety of fields. You won't get rich there, but you can have a lot of fun and do cutting-edge work.

College towns usually have a lot more culture, in many senses of the word, than non-college towns of the same size. The highly educated workforce makes a big difference.

We used to live 30 minutes outside Eugene, Oregon (University of Oregon) on 50 acres. In retrospect, it would have been better to have a smaller place (3-5 acres?) closer to town. But we were definitely secluded.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any rural tech communities?

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Small towns have grocery stores and hospitals... My small town has a Walmart supercenter and another grocery store Rural is generally farm land outside of small towns, that's where people drive to get groceries. Land outside a medium city is a suburb, not rural.

>Small towns have grocery stores and hospitals... Yes, but 4-40 acres gets a lot cheaper the further you go from the town. My point was as he was looking and pricing, make sure you are 30 minutes away from a grocery store or hospital. You can always grow a garden and hunt if you so desire, but if you break your leg or something, an hour is a long drive to get it fixed. >Land outside a medium city is a suburb, not rur…

I guess my point was you don't need to drive to a "medium city" for groceries.

Unless you're in sparser areas like Wyoming, Nevada, West Texas, etc. you're always 30 minutes or so from the nearest town no matter where you live.

If you're looking for 4-40 acres, you're not wanting land out in backcountry, you're wanting land outside a town.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any rural tech communities?

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post #121
post #118

You might have luck in any one of a number of university towns.

This. Every one of the 50 states has a flagship university, and some of them are doing very good research in a variety of fields. You won't get rich there, but you can have a lot of fun and do cutting-edge work. College towns usually have a lot more culture, in many senses of the word, than non-college towns of the same size. The highly educated workforce makes a big difference. We used to live 30 minutes outside Eug…

Our local 4H program has a robotics team, for example. Right alongside the kids raising extremely fancy chickens (sometimes they're the same kids).

And yeah, colleagues of mine live on anything ranging from an old orchard to a working farm, in addition to those of us who live in town.

...also we're hiring two people if anyone is interested in global health data analysis or health informatics >.>

Re: Ask HN: Are there any rural tech communities?

#126
post #48

> I've heard that people tend to be very different to those you find in a city In a lot of cases this is true - and it's not just about tech. Rural communities are often more religious, more conservative, lower income, lower educated, and have a lot less access to opportunity. Cities also mean that there's often a critical mass for many interests and minority groups. Are you LGBT? Are you a religious or racial minori…

I feel like you've never visited any rural area. I grew up in a rural area and most of the people I know from growing up ended up in a city at some point in their life because of the lack of opportunities in the rural area, but very few people fit the stereotype you're putting forth. The place I grew up was a farm town, and my family were also farmers, everybody in my family went to college even though we weren't well-off, and that's true for most other farm families. Farming these days is actually strongly technology-focused, and people go specifically to college for agricultural studies to learn how to cost effectively and sustainably operate their farms. I'm the odd one out in my extended family because I moved far away and went into the tech industry.

I would strongly challenge your belief that rural people are uneducated and unintelligent, it's mostly the exact opposite. Many of the rural people have skills and knowledge far beyond what the average person in the city does, because they have to do more things for themselves in their day to day life. City life is mostly about specialization and formalized/structured job roles and living. Rural life is about doing whatever is necessary to succeed and moving things forward one more day. The average farmer has a strong understanding of multiple trade skills (plumbing, hydraulics, welding, mechanics), as well as at least a basic understanding of mechanical & civil engineering, at least a basic understanding of biology, and at least a basic understanding of electrical systems.

The only thing you really get right here is about the economics of the situation. Rural areas experience brain drain and are shrinking over generations, part of that is due to increase mechanization and automation in farming which reduces the need for farm labor and creates drive for the children of farmers to go into other fields. The lack of employment and economic opportunity is real, and it is something to give due consideration before deciding to move to a rural area. But it's not because people there are stupid, uneducated, or whatever stereotype that comes to mind.

And, on the note of politics, most rural people are more Libertarian than Conservative. They frankly don't care what you do as long as you leave them alone and stay off their land unless you're invited. In my life I've had FAR FAR more negative interactions with other people trying to enforce their beliefs on me in the city than I ever have growing up in a rural area, and at this point in my life I have roughly 20 years of experience in both situations. A basic, simple, and common example is how HOAs operate vs how local politics works in rural areas. I would not describe rural people as Conservative, and I don't know how you'd want to politically describe most city people (Liberal seems inaccurate), but city people are generally busybodies and expect everyone to conform, rural folks don't care what happens on someone else's property.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any rural tech communities?

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post #48

> I've heard that people tend to be very different to those you find in a city In a lot of cases this is true - and it's not just about tech. Rural communities are often more religious, more conservative, lower income, lower educated, and have a lot less access to opportunity. Cities also mean that there's often a critical mass for many interests and minority groups. Are you LGBT? Are you a religious or racial minori…

> Are you white, male, straight, Christian, etc.? A lot of rural places can become easier if you tick those boxes. If you don't tick those boxes, then you might start wondering how you might be treated differently from living in the city.

I really loved the depiction in Lovecraft Country when the protagonists (black American) were pulled over and given a courtesy notice by the police officer that they were in a "sundown county", where after sunset they would be arrested or killed by that very same police officer.

The sun was setting and they had to get to the next county over before the sun set, but would also meet this same fate if they were driving over the speed limit.

Drama ensues as the police car follows them to the county edge, all at the speed limit.

Now, from the oral and recorded history of people around me - continually dismissed by the white majority from all political leanings - I knew the plot "twist": the next county over was a sundown county too.

Sure enough, at the county line, a line of other police officers wait and capture them, waiting to harass them until justifying killing them, execution style.

I liked that fictional depiction because I hadn't seen it portrayed before, I liked that the show wasn't trying to be about the difficulties of being black American (because many shows with black cast and direction wind up being soap boxes about exactly that, a way for marginalized directors to "finally use their platform"), this show was mostly different while incorporating some plausible realities. Like, what if we did the show Supernatural, where Dean and Sam Winchster wanted to chase demons across America but were black Americans in the 1940s, there would simply be additional shit they would have to continually deal with, nearly indistinguishable from the demons and what the demons would do!

Re: Ask HN: Are there any rural tech communities?

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post #83

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You can wind down certain things, but at what point are you winding down stuff that's more on the necessity side of things? The US has a lot of crumbling infrastructure that needs repair and replacement and I don't think people want to be told "sorry, your house is only accessible by off-road vehicle now." We're spending over $20B to increase rural broadband because people in rural areas don't want to be told "sorry,…

I just wanted to say your walls of text are very offensive, inaccurate, and read as someone who has never lived in a rural community.

Wow

Re: Ask HN: Are there any rural tech communities?

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post #83

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It seems peculiar to me that there is no standard process for the winding down of city governance when population dwindles. It's probably just the human element. I don't mean to be promoting some sort of libertarian "self-governance is great!" philosophy, just thinking out loud. Imagine a city building game where city expenses increase with each population milestone (due to new positions in local government, new depa…

You can wind down certain things, but at what point are you winding down stuff that's more on the necessity side of things? The US has a lot of crumbling infrastructure that needs repair and replacement and I don't think people want to be told "sorry, your house is only accessible by off-road vehicle now." We're spending over $20B to increase rural broadband because people in rural areas don't want to be told "sorry,…

> It can be things like roads or safe drinking water.

In most rural areas the roads are maintained by the county outside the town, and people maintain their own drinking water using wells. You pay someone to drill you a new well if it runs dry, and you're responsible for maintaining your own pumping system and getting your water regularly tested and treated if necessary. I have no idea what you're on about... rural areas don't work the way you are describing, you've obviously never lived in a rural area.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any rural tech communities?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wanted to say your walls of text are very offensive, inaccurate, and read as someone who has never lived in a rural community.

Can you spend some time pointing out a few of the specific inaccuracies from your perspective?

I will try to, but it's an overwhelming amount of generalizations, characterizations, and talking points.

I mainly wanted to voice my disdain and alert others to take what he said with a grain of salt.

For now, I would reference you to other comments that have disputed parts of what he said:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31129696

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31129451

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31129728

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