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Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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I doubt most of the subscription loss is attributable to reasons that most HN types go on about (the rants about wokeness, not enough scifi, carousel UI, pirating etc...). What's probably going on is after after a few years of pandemic isolation and Netflix binging, the arrival of pandemic triggered inflation, and overall higher employment rates, people just have less interest, time, and money to binge watch longer f…

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You really needed to get that off your chest huh? Go pay for a therapist, and save us your weird malformed ideology and frustrations.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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It's sad that we cannot own titles but are forced to rent them from these streaming services that can't seem to get their shit together. (Not blaming Netflix per se; this is a pox on all their houses). Used to be nice in the DVD days. I built myself a nice collection then.

This was the idea behind digital rights lockers: UltraViolet, which Disney refused to participate in and which closed down in 2019, and its successor Movies Anywhere, in which Paramount, MGM, and Lions Gate are not participating.

[Old HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19046108]

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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That's not how English works. "Stole", "steal", etc., have meanings beyond just illegally depriving someone of physical property. Here are several examples of correct usage of "steal" or "stole" that have nothing to do with illegally taking property. • Someone says they do not like cats and have no interest in having one as a pet. A cute stray kitten shows up on their doorstep, they take pity and feed it. They fall i…

All of these examples result in someone not having something any more (being the star of a show, trade secret, confidential data, fiance, winning of the game).

Piracy is not stealing.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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This has been amazing to watch unfold. Netflix after canceling all of its best shows during a period when piracy has never been easier: "Let's start doing ads!" I wonder if anybody at Netflix has seen the UX of popular streaming apps like (now defunct I believe) terrarium and its successors. They're easier to use, just as fast as Netflix, have much larger libraries, allow DRM-free downloads, ad-free, no algorithmic s…

I agree with your point that Netflix UX is terrible. But what do you mean "canceling all of its best shows"? It's not Netflix's fault if the studios pulled their licenses for their content, for their own streaming services.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

> It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. It really isn't and it's only cheaper if you don't put much value on your time. Radarr and Sonarr don't do anything automatically. Setting them up takes more time than they are worth. I tried installing them. Most would describe me as technically savvy, but I just gave up. example issues. Here's the quick start guide. https://wiki.servarr.co…

> It really isn't and it's only cheaper if you don't put much value on your time.

Very true.

In the hours it takes to download and curate these movies and shows I've made more than enough to cover a Netflix, Disney+, Prime and HBO subscriptions for that month or pay for a few VOD titles for that month.

My time is way more fucking valuable than the time required to do this well.

And if I do without content or entertainment even better. Not everything is worth watch every month.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Netflix suggestions are not good. It takes a long time to find something decent to watch.

I have enjoyed Narcos, Tiger King, Stranger Things, Queen's Gambit and others.

But there are so many bad shows, that are formulaic, unoriginal and overall, lame.

Then, I have nothing against noble causes such as social justice and such. But compare a good movie, such as Men of honor, or the Green Book, with the unoriginal content on Netflix. It is just not watchable.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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post #322

I doubt most of the subscription loss is attributable to reasons that most HN types go on about (the rants about wokeness, not enough scifi, carousel UI, pirating etc...). What's probably going on is after after a few years of pandemic isolation and Netflix binging, the arrival of pandemic triggered inflation, and overall higher employment rates, people just have less interest, time, and money to binge watch longer f…

I haven't canceled yet but am considering it. They have a few problems for me - They don't make it easy to discover content. They still have quite a lot of good original content that isn't promoted and a slew of third party things that aren't promoted or discoverable at all unless they happen to make the trending list The majority of their original, promoted content is watered down crap designed for mass appeal. For…

> The majority of their original, promoted content is watered down crap designed for mass appeal.

this has 100% been the reason my time spent on Netflix has gone down. seems like everything they make is algo-optimizing shlock designed to appeal to the average consumer.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

#668

This has been amazing to watch unfold. Netflix after canceling all of its best shows during a period when piracy has never been easier: "Let's start doing ads!" I wonder if anybody at Netflix has seen the UX of popular streaming apps like (now defunct I believe) terrarium and its successors. They're easier to use, just as fast as Netflix, have much larger libraries, allow DRM-free downloads, ad-free, no algorithmic s…

> canceling all of its best shows Care to list? Most of the loss of shows I see are from studios pulling them off Netflix to make them exclusive to their own streaming service - a bunch of Disney stuff is now Hulu or D+ only for instance.

https://decider.com/list/canceled-netflix-original-shows/

Personally I am still not over the cancellation of Sense8 and The Oa.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Uh huh, I'll stop stealing from you when you stop stealing from me. Advertizements everywhere stealing my attention, public space, and landscape beauty. Stealth taxes on empty hard drives and other storage media. Hardware-destroying rootkits and other malware (lost a DVD drive to DRM, will you reimburse me?). Draconian control mechanisms and lobbying stealing my control of the devices I own. Mountains upon mountains…

You, personally, are stealing from my income. All those issues you raise are valid and important issues to address. Stealing because those things make you angry makes you part of the problem.

Film is competing against loads of free content and the industry is thrashing to avoid accepting the obvious fate: it is no longer economically rational to produce films with budgets in the hundreds of millions.

Jobs will be lost, just like happened with farriers and switchboard operators. Your income will disappear regardless: the demand for stunts is elastic and the supply is increasingly competitive. Blaming pirates is being unable to see the forest for the trees.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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post #662

It's sad that we cannot own titles but are forced to rent them from these streaming services that can't seem to get their shit together. (Not blaming Netflix per se; this is a pox on all their houses). Used to be nice in the DVD days. I built myself a nice collection then. This was the idea behind digital rights lockers: UltraViolet, which Disney refused to participate in and which closed down in 2019, and its succes…

Doesn’t apple still allow you to buy movies on their service? I only bought two (the iron giant and the bucket list) but i am pretty sure iron giant i bought close to 15 years ago. I can still download it from their service without any problems(just went to the tv app on my phone to confirm and just started to download them right now)
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