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The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by roody15 »

serial_dev wrote: post #433
danans wrote: post #322

I doubt most of the subscription loss is attributable to reasons that most HN types go on about (the rants about wokeness, not enough scifi, carousel UI, pirating etc...). What's probably going on is after after a few years of pandemic isolation and Netflix binging, the arrival of pandemic triggered inflation, and overall higher employment rates, people just have less interest, time, and money to binge watch longer f…

I didn't cancel Netflix yet (have been thinking about it as I find that sometimes I just watch it for hours, and it's kind of a waste of life). I can say for sure, if they introduce ads, I'm leaving, I won't pay for watching ads, sorry.

Absolutely agree… ads would be the death blow for me. Have cancelled a few times in the past because just don’t have a lot of time to watch TV. Ads and would never go back

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Post by robonerd »

Stunting wrote: post #301
CuriouslyC wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not stealing, it's copyright infringement, and it's an act of protest. I paid for Netflix for years when the streaming catalog was good, but now the streaming video market feels like an anti-consumer predatory cash grab.

It's stealing, specifically from myself and others in my industry that you haven't heard of that. Making movies would be impossible to be without your - Lesser Known actors - Assistant Directors - Stunt Coordinators - 2nd Unit Directors - Stunt Performers and I'm sure there are others. Residuals factor into our income, allow us to qualify for health insurance, empower our unions, and provide a stable income to contin…

How much of your money has been taken from you? Not hypothetical money you think you might have been entitled to, but money that was actually yours. How much was taken from you?

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Post by carride »

DevKoala wrote: post #321

Serious question. Why is Netflix software engineering comp so high? Is it a small team working on all technical problems? It seems that every other content provider built a decent enough streaming service and from anecdotal experience they offer between 60-70% in TC of what Netflix offers. Is Netflix on more devices? Does Netflix have technology that make content distribution more efficient compared to other streamin…

Perhaps they promote their tech achievements better than others https://netflixtechblog.com/

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Post by bb123 »

ipaddr wrote: post #274
bb123 wrote: post #225

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There are also tons of benefits to just walking out of the grocery store without paying. No queues, no small talk with the checkout person and you save cash too.

A better way to look at it is if you went to the store and took pictures of the food and shared those pics with friends. You want me to buy the apple before taking a picture?

False equivalence. 0 marginal cost of replication doesn’t mean that the item is valueless. The creators have a right to be paid for their work. Just as you’d be working your rights to charge people to look at your apple picture.

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Post by tomjen3 »

The reason you used to have Netflix was that you could binge watch old shows. As Netflix lost the license to these many seasons deep shows and replaced them with single seasons of just a handful of episodes people got less and less out of it, but it became much more expensive for Netflix and so they raised their price.

We need a 'must-license' system for TV-shows and movies, so that any movie that is available on one streaming service must be available to any other streaming service for the same terms. No doubt this will not mean that all movies are available on all streaming services, but it will mean that there will be actual competition.

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Post by andrew_ »

danans wrote: post #421
andrew_ wrote: post #385

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I had been a Netflix for customer for 10 years. For me personally, it's a combination of several of the reasons you cast doubt on. While I may not be in the majority, I am real and those reasons (which I shall not list, to avoid HN wrath) were attributed to my cancellation.

Your reasons are totally real and you are entitled to them, but in the context of subscriber loss in the 100s of thousands probably marginal.

Until we have publicly available statistics, speculation is irresponsible. We can't possibly know or being able to sample or extrapolate what motivation 200,000 had, nor their commonalities.

It sounds more like you'd like the reasons not to be one of or a combination of those, which would be fair.

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Post by grogenaut »

conception wrote: post #437
serial_dev wrote: post #433

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I didn't cancel Netflix yet (have been thinking about it as I find that sometimes I just watch it for hours, and it's kind of a waste of life). I can say for sure, if they introduce ads, I'm leaving, I won't pay for watching ads, sorry.

They've said they are introducing a reduced subscription fee with ads, not adding ads.

Given their price increases they'll be at $15/month on the ad supported tier soon

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Post by samstave »

e40 wrote: post #260
pojzon wrote: post #125

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I can assume Netflix does not have this kind of browsing simply due to amount of content they have. Offering of Netflix is extremely poor if you crop out all the duplicate shows popping on your feed. Ive decided to drop Netflix simply because: - new interesting shows are popping up so rarely, there is no point to pay the monthly sub - there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows (Kids really dont ne…

BS. There is a very high correlation between imdb rating and if I enjoy something. Give me a sort by that and I will be very happy.

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls055592025/

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Post by unethical_ban »

hardwaregeek wrote: post #268
cercatrova wrote: post #101

It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

I don't know how to phrase this nicely, but this is precisely the type of Hacker News nerd-blindness that I find amazing. It's "easier"? Is it? For young children who want to watch their kids shows and don't know what 4k means? For grandparents who want to see some k-dramas and have no clue about DRM or geo-locked? Sure, Netflix has issues and it's made some bad decisions, but let's not delude ourselves here. The gro…

I can agree it isn't easier for those who don't know it. It's like saying the CLI is easier than a GUI - sure, for you.

The things this person lists are things I agree with, however. I actually have Amazon Prime Video but still enjoyed watching my friend's pirated copies on Plex, because there is no way to force-disable shitty compression levels, even if I have gigabit Internet.

Also, my friend can make sure their video library never changes or goes away, and that certain rarer content is archived forever, not subject to the changes of George Lucas or Disney editing out "problematic" content.

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