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Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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> The worst part is the high degree of censorship. Everyone is so sensitive now that it's impossible to speak openly What would you say if you weren't censored?

where to begin. What would one say if one could speak openly? * The vast majority of executives are paranoid, risk averse know nothings. They don’t want to take any business risks lest it harm their comp. * Because most execs don’t understand their business, their customers, their industry, and they distrust their staff — they can’t formulate clear and concise goals and objectives. This is how orgs end up with that b…

Agree with most of what you say except the bizarre point of government being more effective than most companies. That one simply makes no sense. The U.S. government is one of the most ineffective organizations on the planet!

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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GP specified that it was "the worst part". Was a Slack bot that shunned people from writing "guys" the worst part of the "censorship" you were subjected to?

To be honest, a slack bot like that would make me quit on the spot.

The Elm language community has exactly such a Slack bot. I do find it a little patronizing, and in my observation it makes newcomers feel worse rather than better, but the community overall is really very nice and helpful, so I just put up with it.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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Yes, the BS drained the life out of me. Switched to a startup and it got much better, but once we grew to 100+ people, the endless meetings started piling up again The worst part is the high degree of censorship. Everyone is so sensitive now that it's impossible to speak openly

> The worst part is the high degree of censorship. Everyone is so sensitive now that it's impossible to speak openly What would you say if you weren't censored?

What I miss is humor. I work in a multinational and the cultural difference is striking. My European colleagues will make harmless jokes and laugh in most meetings. It makes a really pleasant environment. In comparison, my us colleagues don't laugh or joke at all, too risky as someone could be offended.

Simple expressive language is also taboo. One Italian coworker used a analogy of the product as a beautiful woman in a meeting to get a point across.

Basically all my us colleagues were shocked, because they only use dry corporate speak.

I think it is a big part of imposter syndrome and exhausting to speak and listen to.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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> AI managers who are optimizing transparent objectives All AIs that I've seen so far just optimize the reproduction of existing biases and/or serve to obfuscate policy decisions by ensuring that no person is left to blame. Are you stating a dream there, or did I miss a development towards practical AI systems that make decisions more transparent?

NNs dont need to be transparent as long as the objectives are transparent

It says here the objective is "to serve man."

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?

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If I worked in a company that was as described, I'd be sick of it, too. But that description is a caricature of the worst of companies. So if it is accurate, you can find a better place to be and you should. Not all companies are like that.

Even so, all companies have their own flaws. You have to be able to communicate those flaws to leadership and feel comfortable with that process. Sometimes when you do so, change will occur, sometimes it will not. Sometimes you are told why not, sometimes it just seems to get dropped. This isn't ideal but it is the corporate world.

The key is to figure out what flaws you can live with. To find some joy in the good side of the work. Or at the very least, just to accept that this is the price you pay to get the paycheck. If you do not feel that the paycheck makes it worth the trouble, you are in the wrong job.

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