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Re: US sentences crypto expert to 5 years after North Korea blockchain presentation

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Post by drc500free » Fri, Apr 15, 2022, 9:46 PM UTC

tobiasSoftware wrote: post #522

drc500free wrote: post #268

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> In law, intentions matter. This is almost always the sticking point when people from tech misunderstand law. The fact that computers do not understand intent is fundamental to learning code. I think that leads to a lot of tech folks not groking that one of the primary functions of the legal system is to systematically determine intent.

There's an excellent article that I've read multiple times about this exact idea called "What Colour are your bits". It's written in response to a company that tried to get around the legal system by pretending that intentions don't matter. https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23

That was great!

A lot of the conversations I've had about this involve licensing, especially mixing things developed for the government and things developed independently. I once answered a question with "the answer to that question just changed because a room full of people heard you ask it." That is very disconcerting to computer scientists, but not to particle physicists.

Re: US sentences crypto expert to 5 years after North Korea blockchain presentation

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Post by ethbr0 » Sat, Apr 16, 2022, 1:47 PM UTC

woah wrote: post #300

djrogers wrote: post #288

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Sanctions only work that way in a world that doesn't exist - one with 100% agreement and compliance with sanctions at a nation-state level. The reason monetary controls are so critical to sanctions is that they make it more difficult for the countries that don't want to abide by the sanctions to do bypass them. Not impossible, but more difficult.

I think India's massive trade volume with Russia contradicts you

The US specifically doesn't choose to enforce some of the harsher sanction penalties on India for geopolitical reasons.

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Post by tarboreus » Sat, Apr 16, 2022, 5:10 PM UTC

tbrownaw wrote: post #410

babypuncher wrote: post #341

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Sabotaging your own military's weapons still sounds an awful lot like treason

I think we'd have to be in an actual formally declared war with someone first.

This is accurate for a technical definition of treason in the US.

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Post by SamReidHughes » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 8:46 AM UTC

CamperBob2 wrote: post #298

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The "civilized" world had plenty of time to do that before NK got nukes, and it didn't. War in Korea would be far worse than peace.

War in Korea would be far worse than peace. The Korean War saw about 1.5 million civlian deaths, according to [1]. It's impossible to say how many died in the 1994-1998 famine alone, but [2] puts it at "240,000 to 3.5 million" and [3] cites figures of "up to 3 million." [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_famine [3]: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archiv…

We might instead be asking why we let South Korea's TFR drop to 1.0 while NK is maintaining 2.0. We don't know by what criteria history will judge us. (I think my fellow Californians will be judged just fine -- Korea's not our problem.)

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Post by wolverine876 » Tue, Apr 19, 2022, 9:50 PM UTC

cormacrelf wrote: post #578

wolverine876 wrote: post #560

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I have a few thoughts: If you don't know how they can mislead you, it only means you are more vulnerable. We don't know what we don't know. Whole worlds of issues and problems can be easily omitted, for example. Trusting any source as described is a fundamental mistake. But this is really unnerving: > Very rarely, that process gets it wrong Why do you say that? That is not my understanding of the process. Look at all…

From 1976 to 2020, federal prosecutions led to only 11 people executed, and 8 of them were in 2020. https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/IN11474.pdf In comparison, there were about 1500 from state courts. This makes sense when you realise murder is almost always prosecuted as one of 50 different state crimes. You have missed that I'm specifically talking about the US DoJ. State equivalents are entirely different organisation…

> Your little aphorism is true of many district attorneys but not of the US DoJ.

Why would you say that?

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Post by JustLurking2022 » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 2:01 PM UTC

syshum wrote: post #534

JustLurking2022 wrote: post #454

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It's almost like the place is run by a dictator who would take food out of the mouth of his own people to fund a nuclear weapons program that serves no purpose other than to keep him in power.

Hmm if only there was an economic system or currency that could be used outside the control of authoritarian governments... I wonder what we would call it.....

The USD - crypto is an amazing tool for authoritarian regimes looking to evade sanctions. Assuming that's where you were trying to go, you totally misunderstand the problem. People in oppressive regimes can have all the crypto in the world but, if every time they use it to buy food, there's a guy with a gun who takes it for the regime, then it's even more useless than it's normal Monopoly money status.

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Post by yffras » Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 9:39 PM UTC

randomhodler84 wrote: post #425

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You should look into MAD, and why the USSR and USA signed a treaty restricting anti-missile defenses. If any country was close to getting ironclad missile shields, it's adversaries would probably act preemptively.

Also look into Jason P Lowery, and Mutually Assured Preservation concept. PoW Cryptocurrencies, specifically Bitcoin, will end all war. Modern war can only be perpetual with loose monetary policy. Fix the money, fix the world. Post MAD, the strategic battle was over post 70s. The tactical, hash warfare battle is the next phase we will have to live through. Eventually we realize we are all on the same Planet Earth tea…

Bitcoin will not eliminate the need to own physical property - like cars, real estate, companies, etc. Bitcoin will actually expand war. Today you have a military to fight to protect your physical property. The strongest currency typically has the strongest military. Bitcoin (and crypto) will expand property into the digital realm. So now you will need a larger military to protect with force physical property AND digital property.